00:45 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> Something has been puzzling me for a long time. Why does it say next to the vendor kernel that it's "for Developers"? I really don't understand

01:19 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <random_anon_cesar> For SBCs that use the Rockchip 3588 you’ll usually see the “vendor kernel” 6.1 & the mainline kernel (6.12+)

01:20 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <random_anon_cesar> The vendor kernel is released by Rockchip & is pre-patched with additional drivers & modules for optimal hardware compatibility with the 3588

01:21 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <random_anon_cesar> However, it’s seen as a “developer” kernel because it’s not as stable as the mainline & not affiliated with the latest builds from the official Linux community (running updates have been known to break functionality)

01:23 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <random_anon_cesar> Hardware compatibility is slowly but surely being added to the mainline kernels & can be tracked here

01:23 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <random_anon_cesar> https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/notes-for-rockchip-3588/-/blob/main/mainline-status.md

01:25 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <random_anon_cesar> Mainline = official Linux kernel (better long term stability in exchange for some missing hardware functionality for the time being. Better for headless servers)

01:25 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <random_anon_cesar> Vendor = Rockchip mod of the Linux kernel for their chipset (better for desktop/gaming applications in exchange for a potentially less stable experience)

01:40 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <random_anon_cesar> However, it’s seen as a “developer” kernel because it’s not as stable as the mainline & not affiliated with the latest builds from the official Linux community (according to forums, running updates have been known to sometimes break functionality)

05:17 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> Where it says that?

05:18 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> In theory all kernels are for developer since most of these boards call themselves "development boards" lol

05:27 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> That too, but people still expect 100% stability. Or more 😀

05:27 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> yes, sometimes even more than that ^^

06:31 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> When you choose the kernel in compile.sh

06:33 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> I know all that, this was not the question, I'm już puzzled about this wording because the vendor kernel (it seems to me) is "less" for developers, as more hardware is supported

06:33 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> I know all that, this was not the question, I'm just puzzled about this wording because the vendor kernel (it seems to me) is "less" for developers, as more hardware is supported

06:34 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> I know the difference, this was not the question, I'm just puzzled about this wording because the vendor kernel (it seems to me) is "less" for developers, as more hardware is supported

06:36 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> @igorpec

06:36 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1383334265697079306/Screenshot_20250614-083554188_1.png?ex=684e69ee&is=684d186e&hm=ad71162d6ae45a0f5cd93273e748679c50205350493488b4a1b85dd6905df020&

06:39 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> From the word "experimental" I infer that this previously referred to a different branch of the vendor kernel, more bleeding edge, now there's just 1 vendor kernel but the text stayed

06:39 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> From the word "experimental" I infer that this previously referred to a different branch of the vendor kernel, more bleeding edge, now there's just 1 vendor kernel but the text stayed. Maybe.

06:42 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> https://github.com/armbian/build/blob/bc6e97caa97a3581381473a060897740326e7cdc/lib/functions/configuration/interactive.sh#L245

06:42 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> Probably vendor should get the same text as legacy

06:43 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> Yes, this indeed sound weird / wrong.

06:43 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> I assume that is for non-standard cases like collabora branch or suchj

06:44 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> Was this perhaps changed recently?

06:44 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> iirc there was a pr quite recently to clarify kernel descriptions

06:44 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> Yes, there perhaps?

06:45 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/8152

06:45 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> I am on mobile and hardly check

06:46 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> Ah hold on, that was already in place before this pr

06:46 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> Well, vendor now fallback

06:47 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> https://github.com/armbian/build/commit/718047cfd737f134e3d177827022044671f4b562 seems like this has been in place for long time

06:47 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> Yup

06:48 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> Anyhow, vendor should get proper dedicatdd description

06:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/8299

08:21 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> Cool thanks

14:32 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/build](<https://github.com/armbian/build>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/build/commit/d5fb671349bb3ed045c2fe8647feac0c66996b26>): *rpi4b: bump `edge` to 6.15.y*

16:52 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> https://forum.armbian.com/topic/52028-architecting-a-new-website/#findComment-219832

16:52 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> New Armbian logo candidates

17:32 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/build](<https://github.com/armbian/build>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/build/commit/b39b03b5a51bc6f932071fec6ff3523fad3fb806>): *`Automatic` board configs status synchronise*

20:49 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <bugzbanger> Hi all, I am trying to compile a kernel with a 64k page size, and I can see in my confim it says 64k , however if I boot it's back to the 4k default. What am I doing wrong? I used the kernel configure , to set the page size to 64 but once i have then written that image to the sdcard and boot, nothing. This is with my orangepi 5

20:49 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <bugzbanger> I have mounted the image once it was compiled and check in the /boot/config-{kernel} , (this is now before writing to the sdcard, just checking the .img file), and I still CONFIG_ARM64_4K_PAGES=y # CONFIG_ARM64_16K_PAGES is not set # CONFIG_ARM64_64K_PAGES is not set