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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> Hello all,
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> I had no idea where to introduce myself, so I decided on this channel.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> I am a long time Linux user and now help to develop for a couple of Retro computer sites, the main one of which is AmiKit for Amiga based on both x86/Linux/Debian and Arm/RPi/Debian.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> When AmiKit was updated from arch/Manjaro on the RPi a few years back, I was the creator for the new Debian version and I continue to support and update it.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> When I made the change from arch/Manjaro to Debian with AmiKit, I really considered using Armbian as the base OS as I liked (and still do like) the wonderful base image that you create. However for simplicity, at the time, I developed the OS using the RaspberryPi/Debian12 base image. This was chosen as most users were using the RPi4/5 and the already had a knowledge of the Raspian OS.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> Recently, I have looked at developing more on Orange Pi (both RK3588 and Risc-v / RV2), and the base image for the Orange Pi zero 3 and the OPi5B are superb with Armbian. I must thank you all for creating such great versions. 🙂 as they avoid the clumsy repos that Orange Pi insist on using (there are also, maybe, some other nasties included on that OS).
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> I must say that the number of boards / SBCs that you create Armbian for is truely impressive and I doff my hat to you all. I would like to develop more on other boards, but the usual financial restraints are holding me back.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> So where is this intro going? Just a few questions really:
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> Will you develop Armbian for the Orange Pi RV2? and
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> Are you aware of an issue with this image:
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> Armbian_25.5.1_Rpi4b_trixie_current_6.12.32_minimal.img.xz
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> (I know it is still in testing, but the boot sequence loops and requests the same info over and over. tested on RPi4 and RPi5)
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> Is there a reason you don't add the Raspberry Pi repos to the RPi images? I am guessing the answer is yes, however when I add the RPi repos I don't get any fails or issues.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> Thanks in advance for any replies, and none of the questions are meant as a protest against Armbian. As I said above, I really like it and it works great on the boards that I can test on. Sorry to sound like a "bit of a noob", but where else does one start?
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> Have you ran any emu/gpu testing on the Orange Pi RV2? I have the bigger K1 and the problem right now with almost all of the RISC-V units is the graphics performance.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> Have you ran any emu/gpu testing on the Orange Pi RV2 with any distro? I have the bigger K1 and the problem right now with almost all of the RISC-V units is the graphics performance.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> Not tested the RV2 yet, the board has yet to arrive. I ordered it two weeks ago. 🙂
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> I would encourage you to try a vendor image and test the gpu first...
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> Will do, thanks for the advice. 🫶
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> RISC-V still needs a lot of development.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> I have several different units here at the moment.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> I realise that. so this is my first foray into risc-v
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> Ah. Yeah I've been working on it for a few years
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> I will appreciate your input when i get mine. Thanks.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> My best board (In my opinion) is the Banana PI BPI-F3
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> 90%+ of what I do though is ARM
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> Yep, I mostly work on ARM / RPi boards. However I need to work on x86 for the AmiKit updates too.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> BTW, this is the issue with the Armbian_25.5.1_Rpi4b_trixie_current_6.12.32_minimal.img.xz
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> image:
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> trixie/testing images might not get much supprt *but don't quote me" I would advise staying away from it unless you really need it...
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> trixie/testing images might not get much support *but don't quote me" I would advise staying away from it unless you really need it...
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> I only tested it because Trixie is just two days awat from official launch.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> I only tested it because Trixie is just two days away from official launch.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> Yeah but after that I would give third party distros at "least" 1-3 weeks to work out their transition
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> Agreed, even RPi OS will still be working on a final version.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> Indeed
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> I spend most of my time on FreeBSD now...
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> (I was a FreeBSD admin though for years as a job)
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> Oh, you will get along with another developer on AmiKit. He works with FreeBSD everyday.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> He just created Amiberry for FreeBSD with JIT support.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> nice.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> His next task is to recreate it on MAC OS. A big task. 😎
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <wiisoldier> He just recreated Amiberry for FreeBSD with JIT support.
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Are we replacing debian 12 with debian 13 for the next release @igorpec ? Apparently tomorrow is the official release date
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> We could. And perhaps leave bookworm minimal too.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Seems reasonable to me
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> You know which file needs changes?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Probably
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Btw why did installing home assistant via armbian-config delete my openemediavault installation and docker daemon config
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> This seems very unintended
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Module docker seems to very flawed rn
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<yang> There seems to be a problem changing IP address with armbian-config, Armbian 25.5.1 stable 6.12.35-current-sunxi64 (Debian bookworm)
<yang> it doesn't get applied
<yang> old IP remains, even though i tried to change
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<yang> same error, on another SBC
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<yang> that is armbian-config 25.8.0-trunk.380.0718.155006
<yang> "nmtui" would probably work, but I got stuck on "apply change"
<yang> should of done it over serial, not ssh
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> yang: can you me more specific - which image, minimal, server or desktop
<yang> nmtui worked after repowering , PINE64
<yang> I ran apt upgrade on it, then tried to change the IP, it's not from the new build - v25.5.1 for Pine64 running Armbian Linux 6.12.35-current-sunxi64
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<yang> I'll test bananapi and try the same thing, then report
<yang> with new image
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> try
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> armbian-config --cmd BNS002
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> and reboot
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> this removed fallback dhcp configuration
<yang> ok
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> it actually should have two ip addresses when seting it via armbian-config
<yang> on the new image of bananapi?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> yes, on any image
<yang> ok
<yang> With Bananapi trixie image, I see Uboot screen 2024.1, then it writes "booting the kernel" and after that it's a black picture on the mini screen. There could be a problem with insufficient power to power the keyboard + HDMI, dunno. I will wait another 10 minutes if the picture comes back
<yang> That is Bananapi M1
<yang> and minimal iot image
<yang> website says Build Date: Nov 24, 2024
<yang> still black screen
<yang> I'll try Bookworm XFCE build
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> those are very old images
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> let me make new one
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<yang> Armbian_24.11.1_Bananapi_bookworm_current_6.6.62_xfce_desktop.img
<yang> this one boots
<yang> i was able to create login
<yang> but tehn it goes black , maybe its trying to auto-tune to XFCE?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> leave those old images
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> i started a job to generate 24.8
<yang> ok
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> 20-30m
<yang> nice
<yang> igorpec so will the images appear on webiste?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> yes
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> but not at main download
<yang> ok where then
<yang> ok
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> when it will be green on that job
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> few minutes
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> trixie minimal is ready
<yang> ok
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> this and one desktop, noble perhaps
<yang> writing to SD card goes only at 4MB/s
<yang> so it takes some time, before I test
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> oh, why so slow?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> xfce image is uploading, will be up soon. anyway, post resoults here. i will check them later ... i hope things generally works
<yang> Armbian_25.8.1_Bananapi_trixie_current_6.12.35_minimal.img
<yang> this one boots, and I was able to login
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> ok, hdmi works?
<yang> I'll try XFCE next
<yang> hdmi works
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> good
<yang> I dunno if XFCE HDMI will sync, I will try
<yang> because of the small monitor
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> you use that small i gave you?
<yang> yes
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> it should work
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> even resolution is some not standard
<yang> do I need to plug in the mouse?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> optionally
<yang> I am unsure if both USB ports work, like keyboard+mouse, because of the power
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> aha, for mouse its usually enough
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> and keyboard
<yang> igorpec sd card is old
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> cheap but good g.co/chrome/ManagingPasskeys
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> https://amzn.to/3UgSWRh
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> wrong paste before 🙂
<yang> oh thats a good price
<yang> did you test the brand, are they working well?
<yang> ah yes, you wrote "cheap but good"
<yang> I'll place an order
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<yang> Armbian_25.8.1_Bananapi_trixie_current_6.12.35_xfce_desktop.img.xz
<yang> boots, and I was able to create the account, but then continues to "starting desktop" and it's a black screen, I'll wait another 10 min.
<yang> also, it tried to obtain the IP by DHCP and it didn't suceed, maybe my faull with dhcpd
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> Hmm, desktop doesn't work. Anything in the xorg logs?
<yang> can't read /etc/netplan/yaml...when trying to assign manual IP
<yang> just a moment
<yang> it could also be a driver problem or a defunct ethernet port
<yang> because i cant poing from the machine
<yang> i dont recall its a long time since I used the sbc
<yang> ethtool end0 says "link detected"
<yang> ethernet is sun7l.dwmac and looks like its recognized
<yang> sorry, cable wasn't fully in on the switch
<yang> works now
<yang> pastebinit -P 1 -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> Tnx. Nothing obvious from quick check. Same symptoms as on 24.11 image, right?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> That armbian config error is safe to ignore. Need to fix it....
<yang> igorpec after first reboot, the boot procedure starts and it comes to the shell, and then the cursor dissapears and the screen goes black
<yang> similar to 24.11 I think
<yang> well i enabled sshd
<yang> so i can log remotelly
<yang> in case to check the logs
<yang> OK, I can continue tomorow
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> Ok, will check if i can fix this
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> Tomorrow
<yang> ok
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