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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rezabojnordi> I have question
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rezabojnordi> how can I install debian on the snapdragon model on the laptop (x plus)
<yang3> rezabojnorsi do you have Lenovo X13?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rezabojnordi> no sir
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rezabojnordi> q5507qa-s15 assuz
<yang3> rezabojnordi, wait for some time, maybe someone can provide an answer, I don't know
<yang3> there are no pre-made images for it
<yang3> for Armbian
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <random_anon_cesar> Have you tried the regular arm64 version of Debian?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> you need exact device tree for your device.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> arm64 debian is same as our generic arm64 image. Will not boot on such device as UEFI support / bios is a problem
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rezabojnordi> yes
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> your best option is image bor lenovo x1 and using device tree for your device - if it exists
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> not plug and play solution
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rezabojnordi> Thanks man
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rezabojnordi> I will check it
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> booo a311d on the bpi-cm4-io image runs at 1.5GHz, didn't realise until I'd finished the benchmark run 😄 good data to compare against I guess
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> @bret Not sure what you are basing that on. Probs the governor is set to ondemand or schedutils.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> It was on the performance governor 😅 I'm basing it on the fact that I set the performance governor, ran benchmarks, and mid-benchmark it was reporting 1500MHz on all cores
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> It wasn't throttling due to temps, I set it with cpufreq-set and ran it again and it was fine - give me a little credit 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> ```current policy: frequency should be within 1000 MHz and 1.51 GHz.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> The governor "performance" may decide which speed to use
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> within this range.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> current CPU frequency is 1.50 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).```
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> I'm not currently on an armbian but it is basically the same patch set ```Processors: Cortex-A53 @ 2016MHz 42°C, Cortex-A73 @ 2400MHz 45°C
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> Frequencies: 2016MHz 2400MHz
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> ```
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> I'm not currently on armbian but it is basically the same patch set ```Processors: Cortex-A53 @ 2016MHz 42°C, Cortex-A73 @ 2400MHz 45°C
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> Frequencies: 2016MHz 2400MHz
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> ```
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> Well sure, but I know what I saw 😄 and a search shows that its flopped back and forth like this on A311D boards (VIM3 mainly) with Armbian over the years
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> You using a fan or heatsink. These units overheat real bad.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> seems I'm not getting that credit I asked for 😂
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> It isn't about credits. Just curious.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> Sure, but I just said above it wasn't throttling. It has a heatsink covering the entire module, and a Noctua industrial fan at 3000rpm above it
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> OK. Well now I have more info 🙂
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> I'm just a bit confused 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> What were you running this benchmark test with?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> I know what I saw, a fresh boot results in the output above, and all cores at 1500MHz, and cpufreq-info showing the max frequency available as 1.51GHz. Once I set it to the 2016/2400 frequencies, it was fine. I wouldn't lie, it was just a throw away comment after I noticed it and wasted a bit of time
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> 7zip, linpack, geekbench6, unixbench, cpuminer-multi amongst others, but I don't think that's relevant, surely the output I shared above shows that it wasn't the software I was running 😅
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> I don't mean to sound stand offish, this just seems like a strange back and forth 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> I'll look into it.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> https://discord.com/channels/854735915313659944/854736416390905927/883121755064000562 it looks to have happened a few times over the years, that was just 1 example, and on the VIM3
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> It's not a big problem, I fixed it and re-ran the tests, it was just a throwaway comment once I noticed like fuuu for losing the time 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> It's not a big problem (for me right now), I fixed it and re-ran the tests, it was just a throwaway comment once I noticed like fuuu for losing the time 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> I don't have a vim3. But I can check the cm4.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> See what mess is going on.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> Sure, sounds good, thanks!
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> @bret unless you explain "what" you did you "fix" it to run at "2016/2400"... https://discord.com/channels/854735915313659944/857944478269702214/1404866414480986185 does sound like to the person just walking in you are saying "It isn't capable of running at the right speed"
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> Oh come on 😄 I said it wasn't thermally throttling and then got asked if it was overheating
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> I don't want to sound picky here but cmoooon
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> Thermally throttling does "nothing" to stop cpufreq
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> cpufreq still has the slots allocated in the dt.. they just can't be used..
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> They still show up
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> How is this somehow getting even more weird of a back and forth 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> People say a lot of things. Details matter.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> But after I gave the outputs of multiple commands and stated it wasn't throttling the frequencies due to temperatures, you can acknowledge that asking me if it's overheating and then saying "now I have more info" feels strange, right? 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> Not really. But sorry if I asked specific direct questions.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> But what additional information did you get from me confirming what I'd already said? 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> I know you have a fan and heat sink and what tests you used.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> Before you just stated something. No info regarding anything and now ur acting like I'm the one giving you a hard time.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> Anyway. I'll check it out.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> You asked what I was basing it on, I gave the `cpufreq-info` output showing that it wasn't going to go above 1.5GHz on the performance governor and stated it wasn't being impacted thermally. Me then confirming I had a fan/heatsink on it shouldn't change how much you trust me stating that it wasn't overheating, I'm no more trustworthy for just saying I have a fan/heatsink 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> but either way, this is definitely pointless to continue, I've flashed the image again for my own sanity and I see the same default 1.5GHz available on performance governor, so it would seem something is up there
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> I don't trust anyone 🙂 Get over ur self.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> ok, ok... lets just stop now.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> can you link to the image you downloaded ?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> The exact steps I took were to boot it from microSD and then use armbian-config to write it to the eMMC after a full apt update/upgrade
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> if you can give me a uname -a too I can then grep for the 1.5ghz to see if it was set somewhere accidentally
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <bret> `Linux bananapicm4io 6.12.32-current-meson64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 4 12:43:54 UTC 2025 aarch64 GNU/Linux`
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> or in turn needing to set the cpumax in the board config depending on what to keep
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> @mecoblock Thank you. I just started investigating and @bret is correct.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> Odd part `/etc/default/cpufrequtils` there is an enable var in the file which is set `false` by default. Seems to working in reverse?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> Odd part `/etc/default/cpufrequtils` there is an enable var in the file which is set `false` by default. Seems to be working in reverse?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> This seems like a not so good idea to have across meson64 families.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> @bret Thanx for the report https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/8495