20:05 <kris_> the brain worms finally won and i'm testing out seatd + turnstile instead of elogind

21:12 <sewn> you suxk

21:13 <kris_> sewn polkit stuff :(

21:13 <sewn> noob

21:13 <kris_> meanie

21:13 <sewn> sowwy

21:13 <sewn> how is that relevant though

21:13 <sewn> polkit shouldn't interfere with turnstile

21:13 <kris_> oh, no, it doesn't

21:13 <kris_> i was attempting to replace elogind with seatd + turnstile

21:14 <kris_> i have no use for user services so i don't care about that part of turnstile

21:14 <kris_> there are some polkit things that kinda need elogind so i wasn't able to get my file manager and otherwise to mount other drives in the system

21:14 <kris_> at which point, the only point turnstile has is tracking ssh stuff

21:16 <kris_> albeit that is the only issue i have with that setup so i totally could just mount my other drive via typical commands

21:17 <midfavila> kris_: why do you use any of that

21:17 <midfavila> legitimate question

21:17 <midfavila> i only use shadow

21:18 <kris_> seatd is more or less needed for wayland compositors

21:18 <midfavila> lame

21:18 <kris_> *or* elogind

21:18 <midfavila> another reason to avoid wayland

21:18 <kris_> you have no reasons to avoid it

21:18 <midfavila> aside from having to redo my entire workflow

21:18 <midfavila> :P

21:18 <kris_> but as for turnstile, i ssh around constantly and dont want to enter my passphrase every time so elogind or turnstile keeps that open

21:19 <kris_> and interact with my virt server over ssh via virt-manager which will otherwise spam me with prompts

21:19 <midfavila> ah

21:20 <midfavila> you can't just put an ssh key on it or whatever?

21:20 <kris_> anyway elogind seems like a less sucky solution

21:20 <kris_> at least for rn especially because i could not care less about user services

21:20 <kris_> if i want to run something as a user i'll just chpst

21:21 <kris_> midfavila i don't know, maybe? this is just the most cut and dry solution that covers everything

21:22 <midfavila> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm