<ehawkvu[m]>
which iirc if you have a docker image for your distro you can use it from github CI
<ehawkvu[m]>
which, granted is not our main hosting provider
<ehawkvu[m]>
but diverting CPU cycles at M$ away from LLMs is a win in my book lol
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<asimov>
hi guys
<asimov>
believe in yourself
<asimov>
thats the phrase for the day
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<sad_plan>
midfavila: pretty sure it was just like that with newspaper back in the day. but I agree. people spend too much time on their phones, consuming trash content
<midfavila>
sad_plan: the thing is, short of like, trashy tabloids, you actually have to... you know...
<midfavila>
read
<midfavila>
and actively engage with the media
<midfavila>
instead of just slopping it up
<sad_plan>
right. newspapers before may have been of a higher standard than what kids consume on the bus today. im kinda baffled seeing what mindless shit they consume today
* midfavila
beams a video of AI-generated Mr Beast dancing to an unrelated AI-generated voiceover, all at 80x playback speed
* midfavila
sets it to loop
<sad_plan>
oh god
<midfavila>
C O N T E N T
<midfavila>
C O N S O O M
<midfavila>
T H E
<midfavila>
C O N T E N T
<sad_plan>
pls no
<sad_plan>
have mercy
<midfavila>
2l8
<midfavila>
elon already implanted neuralink:tm: in your brainstem
<sad_plan>
> get fucked citizen
<sad_plan>
he'll own all of us
<midfavila>
you now have one of your eyes replaced with a split-screen view, one half being tiktoks and the other half being twitter
<midfavila>
and for the low low fee of 2995.99 a month you can upgrade to vision plus:tm:
<sad_plan>
that kinda reminds of me of an epidose of black mirror. lol
<midfavila>
> noooo don't make me consoom the content mid!!!
<midfavila>
> waoaoaoaoa this is just like my favourite CONTENT!!! cuhrazy!
<midfavila>
:P
<midfavila>
once again life imitates art
<sad_plan>
a woman was in an accident, and some corporate woman gave the husband an offer to save his wife. but now she spits out actuall ads at random times, which gets worse over time, and the price will increase over time. utlimately making her a live advertisement, unless the husband cashes out for more premium pacakges
<sad_plan>
lol
<midfavila>
gonna get sewn a separate table for two so he has space for his ipad
<midfavila>
have you seen the tantrums when you take his tablet away? horrifying
<midfavila>
this is what tim apple is doing to our youth sad_plan!!!!!!!!!
<sewn>
at this point I might as well add he/him to my list of pronouns just for midfavila
<sad_plan>
dont forget his energy drinks. he needs his energy drinks
<sewn>
also fuck energy drinks
<midfavila>
oh i'm sorry sewn :c
<sad_plan>
lol
<sewn>
but yeah.most kids do that
<midfavila>
>energy drinks and subway surfers
<sewn>
I'm not TJAT young
<sad_plan>
oh but you are sewn
<midfavila>
>uses chatgpt to do homework
<sewn>
no sad_plan
<midfavila>
u r babby
<midfavila>
fact
<sad_plan>
mate, youre not even 18 yet
<sewn>
nono
<sewn>
I'm young yes
<midfavila>
yes
<midfavila>
:3c
<sewn>
but not young like
<sewn>
to
<midfavila>
the verdict has already been passed
<sewn>
need iPads and energy drinks
<midfavila>
you are an ipad kid
<midfavila>
eternal brand of shame
<sewn>
I'm sending you a pipebomb
<sad_plan>
^
<midfavila>
LMFAO
<sad_plan>
lol, pipebombs
<midfavila>
do you know how to address it?
<midfavila>
lots of people don't these days :P
<sad_plan>
or better yet, do him a mail bomb
<sewn>
gosh
<sad_plan>
like the unabomber
<midfavila>
sad_plan what corner does the stamp go on
<sewn>
also sad_plan fyi I turn 18 legally in
<midfavila>
answer
<midfavila>
rn
<sewn>
2 weeks
<midfavila>
:gun:
<sad_plan>
midfavila: upper left on the inside
<midfavila>
you live
<midfavila>
for now
<sad_plan>
18 year olds are still kids imo
<sewn>
yay but also Fucking hell ugh
<midfavila>
don't rush into adulthood sewn
<midfavila>
otherwise you'll end up like me
<sewn>
well what I have to
<midfavila>
i'm waiting for my hip replacement
<midfavila>
grey hair
<sewn>
because the real world is scawy and its kill or get killed
<midfavila>
parkinsons hitting hard
<sewn>
oh holy shit Greg hair
<sad_plan>
everybody gets older, but its optional to grow old
<sewn>
wow mid you are old
<midfavila>
yeah i'm decrepit
<midfavila>
three feet under
<midfavila>
ripe old age of twenty-something
* midfavila
dies
<sewn>
I bet even sadplan still has his perfect hair
<sad_plan>
you bet
<sewn>
pfft
<midfavila>
i have amazing hair >.>
<midfavila>
it's *streaks*
<sewn>
>grey
<midfavila>
ONLY SLIGHTLY
<midfavila>
QwQ
<sad_plan>
i got a haircut last week, and i feel fresh as ever
<sewn>
eww haircuts
<midfavila>
>cutting your hair
<midfavila>
you're going to be smitten by the lord
<midfavila>
smited
<midfavila>
???????
<midfavila>
he's going to drop a temple on you
<midfavila>
is my point
<sad_plan>
omg, you guys have really long hair, dont you?
* sewn
sweeps their long hair in the wind
<sewn>
yes :3
<midfavila>
down to my tailbone at its longest
<midfavila>
had to trim split ends, now it's lower back
<sewn>
oh wow you currently have it to your tailbone??
<sewn>
a
<sad_plan>
fr? lol, damn
<midfavila>
yes for real
<sewn>
so was okay damn
<midfavila>
no you can't see pictures
<sad_plan>
i wouldve never have guessed that
<midfavila>
>:c
<sad_plan>
pics or it didnt happened sewn
<sad_plan>
midfavila: i mean
<sad_plan>
fuck
<midfavila>
no youre going to bully me
<midfavila>
i have chud glasses
<midfavila>
qwq
<sewn>
haha chud glassew
<midfavila>
im getting aviators for my next pair
<sewn>
EW
<sewn>
TF
<sewn>
NO
<midfavila>
why not!?
<midfavila>
what's wrong with aviators?
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<sewn>
I had aviators and I hated them so much I got new glasses
<sewn>
I thought I'd like them
<midfavila>
sounds like a *you* problem
<sewn>
listen
<sewn>
I thought the same
<sad_plan>
what even is chud glasses. never heard of this
<midfavila>
i look sufficiently 1980s tech support to rock both aviators and a pocket protector
<sewn>
sad_plan: honestly? that but just really slim
<midfavila>
stop BULLYING me qwq
<sad_plan>
yeah probably
<sad_plan>
there there midfavila
<sad_plan>
its gon be k
<midfavila>
also i have a full beard and an actual jawline so idk what to tell you :v
<midfavila>
i wish i had a computer setup like that though
<midfavila>
that looks sick as hell
<sewn>
ewww
<sewn>
full beard?
<sewn>
and a furry?
<midfavila>
sewn it is -50C in the winter
<sad_plan>
feel like traveling back into the 90s with that setup tbh
<sewn>
midfavila: headscarf
<midfavila>
right, you find me a headscarf and i'll consider it
<midfavila>
= w=
<sewn>
just go to any convenience store no
<midfavila>
what the fuck do you mean convenience store
<midfavila>
no convenience store sells stuff that's going to be decent in -50 lmao
<sewn>
bleh
<sad_plan>
midfavila: layers man, just use layers
<sad_plan>
if one isnt enough, try another, and keep adding untill you cant even move
<sewn>
layers??
<sewn>
oh
<midfavila>
sad_plan i cycle in the winter
<midfavila>
there is a method to the madness
<midfavila>
i assure you
<sad_plan>
youd have to roll everywhere after adding all the cheap layers of pisspoor quality cutton
<midfavila>
gross
<sad_plan>
like ball of yarn more or less lol
<midfavila>
just going to put myself in a suitcase and mail myself to riteo's house
<midfavila>
live in italy
<sad_plan>
sounds like a better plan
<sewn>
ooh~
<midfavila>
i don't like the implication of that tilde sewn
<midfavila>
put those tildes away
<midfavila>
>.>;
<sad_plan>
maybe he lives in one of those old abondoneded towns which is now being restored by some dude purchasing the whole town. now we can all squat in some house with half a roof
<midfavila>
the kisshouse
<midfavila>
unironically that would be sic
<sad_plan>
midfavila: you should join tilde.club
<midfavila>
sick
<sewn>
midfavila: the kisshouse~
<sad_plan>
lol, yeah
<midfavila>
BRO IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE HAIBANE RENMEI
<sad_plan>
omg, again with the tildes
<midfavila>
AND LAIN
<midfavila>
sewn: you're banned
<midfavila>
not allowed in
<sewn>
:c
<midfavila>
first the nuzzling and now the tildes
<midfavila>
dangerous anti-regime activity
<sewn>
mean..
* midfavila
applies headpats
<midfavila>
:P
<sewn>
forgiven
<sewn>
sad_plan: tilde.club iis meh
<sewn>
theres so many clubs but like then what
<midfavila>
why would i join tilde anyway
<sewn>
what do you do
<sad_plan>
yeah I get it. but atleast it gives me a persistent connection
<midfavila>
i already use sdf
<sad_plan>
midfavila: because you love tilde. so now you can be ~midfavila
<sewn>
or ~mid
<midfavila>
just because i'm a furry doesn't mean i love tildes
<midfavila>
harmful stereotype
<midfavila>
>:C
<sad_plan>
sewn: to irc I mean
<sewn>
oh interesti
<sewn>
that sounds utterly stupid
<midfavila>
what does
<sewn>
"everyones name now starts with tilde and you WILL like it"
<sad_plan>
appart from that, I dont find much use for it. I happen to sync some folders from my phone to the server, and back to my laptop. because I for some reason cant rsync from my phone to laptop when using my phone for wifi
<midfavila>
you WILL drink the corn syrup!!!!!!!!!!
<sad_plan>
how candian of you midfavila
<midfavila>
sewn we have you surrounded!
<midfavila>
sad_plan: corn syrup is fuckin AMERICAN
<sewn>
I'm already filled with e621
<midfavila>
NOT canadian
<midfavila>
*this* close
<midfavila>
>.>
<sewn>
I love e621 (monosodium glutamate)
<sad_plan>
potato potato
<sewn>
:3
<sad_plan>
its all the same to us non-americans midfavila
<midfavila>
i will actually fight you sad_plan
<sad_plan>
bring it
<midfavila>
meet me in the mcdonalds parking lot after gym and before english
<midfavila>
i'll have you know i'm both ISC2 *and* comptia certified
<midfavila>
i am the most serious
<midfavila>
very professionally developed
<midfavila>
ugh that reminds me i should probably brush up before i sit my next exam
<midfavila>
oh you know what though
<midfavila>
deltarune has sick music
<midfavila>
that'll be great at least
<midfavila>
also more ralsei
<midfavila>
= w=
<sewn>
didnt you just say no video games
<sewn>
means no deltatune for you mid
<midfavila>
deltatune != deltarune
<sewn>
okay bwo
<midfavila>
>bwo
<sewn>
raw wasm
<sad_plan>
when you create functions in scripts, do you sort them, or just put them in w/e order you create them? or what order are they listed?
<midfavila>
am sleepy
<midfavila>
gn
<sad_plan>
gn
* midfavila
dies
<sewn>
nini!
<sewn>
sad_plan: for me it depends on the language
<sewn>
in Go: alphabetical order
<sewn>
in C: usage order WITHOUT forward-decleration because i hate forward-decleration
<sewn>
otherwise forward-decleration with alphabetical
<sad_plan>
shell in any case. I see kiss does not really sort them
<sewn>
so really just stick to something you see practical in the language
<sewn>
kiss should be in usage order + alphabetical
<sewn>
like
<sewn>
(all of pkg_install utils) pkg_install, and so on
<sewn>
i guess?
<sewn>
personally i dont think about ordering of my functions unless it matters
<sad_plan>
not at all alphebetical. first is log, then war, die, run contains, equ, ok null and so on. on kiss that is
<sewn>
so most likely usage order cuz these are the util functions before everything
<sad_plan>
in shell it does not, as theyre all executed anyway, before theyre called
<sad_plan>
right
<sewn>
a() b;
<sewn>
uhh
<sewn>
okay yeah
<sewn>
it doesnt have a state it just checks every single time
<sewn>
so you can define a function that uses af unction that doesnt exist but will exist by the time the function is claled
<sad_plan>
s/executed/read is more correct
<sewn>
nnnoo read because function not program
<sad_plan>
yeah thats kinda what I was leaning into. my words just wasnt agreeing with me lol
<sewn>
guh
<sad_plan>
ive been dreading trying to implement dependency tracking for rcpm. now theres not really too much else to do, besides nit picks, or other nice to have features. damn. dependency tracking is kinda tricky
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<kiedtl|wc>
midfavila i have good news and bad news
<kiedtl|wc>
the good news is that loap is now basically plain html generation, like cgi
<kiedtl|wc>
so much more straight forward and kiss-like
<kiedtl|wc>
the bad news is that it's still rust
<kiedtl|wc>
hmm... 5kb html instead of 700kb html+css+wasm, nice
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<midfavila>
kiedtl|wc: very nice
<midfavila>
:3
<midfavila>
also
<midfavila>
re: volunteers for other arches
<midfavila>
once there's some sort of CI set up i can do that on my machine too
<midfavila>
i've already been doing stuff with KISS on aarch and riscv
<midfavila>
oh my god someone is absolutely hammering SDF right now
<midfavila>
i can barely even log in
* midfavila
rewrites loap in shell
<midfavila>
hmm
<midfavila>
i should probably do more work on kiss in general honestly
<sewn>
i need to get back into kiss
<sewn>
once i graduate!!
<midfavila>
i just wish i had more time for hobbies aa
<midfavila>
i think at some point i'm just going to drop down to part-time work
<kiedtl|wc>
nice
<kiedtl|wc>
re CI, I've been thinking about how to write a script to automatically run builds
<kiedtl|wc>
but for now it's going to be at least partially manual
<kiedtl|wc>
Something like, run `loap-check-out-of-date` once a day/week/month, `cd ~/kiss/repo/extra/<package>`, `loap-run-build-and-upload`
<kiedtl|wc>
actually, not sure what you meant by "CI". you mean loap should have a service that automatically builds code remotely...?
<midfavila>
well, not loap itself per se, but yeah, there should be someone(s) or something(s) building upstream packages automatically as they're updated and then once those packages are confirmed stable they should be uploaded to loap
<kiedtl|wc>
I see
<kiedtl|wc>
Dunno how far I want to automate that bit. Doesn't feel right to have a service executing code on other machines, even if they are volunteers
<midfavila>
well, it's basically just going to be a harness for kiss itself
<midfavila>
only code that would really be executing would be build scripts
<midfavila>
but fair enough
<kiedtl|wc>
true
<kiedtl|wc>
I can see the value in automation though
<kiedtl|wc>
I could maybe try writing a service that just pulls the latest repo data, looks at the version files, and diffs it with what's on loap before building if necessary
<kiedtl|wc>
it'd be local but accomplish the same thing
<kris_>
awa
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<sewn>
hi kris
<kris_>
hi sewn
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<sewn>
why is windows so fucking shite it cant retain a wifi connection for more than 2 minutes
<sewn>
"cant connect to this network" my 15-year old laptop
<sewn>
can do this better than you
<sewn>
im gonna lose it
<midfavila>
sewn: wait until you have to use windows for work
<midfavila>
not only do i have to use windows, i have to use facebook
<sewn>
oh facebook thats not so bad
<sewn>
because youre a boomer :3
<midfavila>
my boss is an actual boomer
<midfavila>
and he's a scrooler too
<sewn>
scrooler?
<midfavila>
consoomer
<midfavila>
of slop
<sewn>
wait youre telling me he actually just scrolls to oblivion
<midfavila>
i'll open the company page for literally two seconds and get blasted by stuff about how the WOKE DEI GLOBALIST ELITE BILL GATES LIBERALS ARE GIVING THE KIDS AUTISM BY PUTTING FLOURIDE IN THE WATER
<midfavila>
and it's just
<midfavila>
and yes
<midfavila>
he does
<midfavila>
aaaaaaaaaa
<midfavila>
sometimes if it's a slow day he'll sit in the office and scrool for hours
<midfavila>
and he does it at like, max volume
<midfavila>
lol
<midfavila>
also he'll watch this stuff and then try to argue with me about it
<midfavila>
and it's really fucking something lol
<sewn>
he just like me fr
<midfavila>
i'm going to bully you sewn
<sewn>
ooh~
* midfavila
rubs his temples, sighs
<sewn>
haha ez
<kiedtl|wc>
lol
<kiedtl|wc>
after a certain age parental controls need to flip around and make the child the admin
<midfavila>
yes
<midfavila>
god please
<kiedtl|wc>
not that youngsters are immune to propaganda but still
<sewn>
huh?
<midfavila>
when i was a kid my mom was like
<midfavila>
"okay mid if you so much as tell a stranger the colour of your hair on the internet they're going to kidnap you"
<midfavila>
"so you can't tell them anything okay?"
<midfavila>
and now my mom's generation is like
<midfavila>
livestreaming everything they do 24/7
<sewn>
wtf
<kiedtl|wc>
huh
<midfavila>
making dramatube slop out of their divorce proceedings
<midfavila>
like bruv
<kiedtl|wc>
o_O
<midfavila>
seriously
<thomas_adam>
Ah, is that what I was meant to have done? Thanks for the reminder, midfavila...
<midfavila>
the shit i see pop up in the .2 seconds i'm on the company's main page is crazy
<kiedtl|wc>
Dunno, the ones in my life aren't nearly that bad. they still consume slop but it's not that bad
<midfavila>
that's right thomas_adam you need to get on it
<midfavila>
you're behind the times
<midfavila>
:p
<midfavila>
kiedtl|wc: didn't you say you live outside NA? that's why
<thomas_adam>
I'll create a vide of me breathing in-and-out...
<midfavila>
the brainworms haven't quite reached you
<thomas_adam>
s/vide/&o/
<midfavila>
yet
<kiedtl|wc>
midfavila: no I'm in sw usa
<midfavila>
o
<midfavila>
my apologies
<kiedtl|wc>
*se
<kiedtl|wc>
ethnically I'm not american/western tho
<midfavila>
i'm like
<kiedtl|wc>
so you're prob correct, "culturally" the brainworms haven't come that far yet
<midfavila>
pretty fucking sure most people in NA aren't ethnic americans
<midfavila>
lmao
<kiedtl|wc>
lol
<midfavila>
like
<midfavila>
just
<midfavila>
a gut feeling
<midfavila>
i remember hearing that something happened that made it that way but idk where from
<midfavila>
but yeah the brainworms are strong here
<midfavila>
i was in a cafe this morning bc i celebrate fridays with a little coffee and pastry and the older folks in the neighbourhood were all sitting at a table just mindlessly scrooling
<midfavila>
kind of spooky tbqh
<midfavila>
canada has fallen, millions must default dance
<thomas_adam>
Hmm, people are glued to their phones, It's sad. I'm sat in a pub at the moment, and most tables have four people, all on their phones, probably sending each other messages rather than talking.
<midfavila>
thomas_adam: many such cases :c
<midfavila>
then again you're doing that in a way too :P
<sewn>
i love my instagram reels
<thomas_adam>
Oh no -- I'm on my own and make no pretense that I'm on a laptop.
<sewn>
:D
<midfavila>
:gun:
<midfavila>
:gun:
<midfavila>
:gun:
<midfavila>
:gun:
<midfavila>
the boss' kid is such a fucking reeler
<midfavila>
it's unreal
<midfavila>
we're the exact same age and every two seconds it's like
<midfavila>
he just has to shove his phone in my face and go "look mid look look look!!!"
<midfavila>
like just *speak to me man*
<midfavila>
>:CCCCC
<midfavila>
thomas_adam: fair enough
<thomas_adam>
Hmm. I consider my use of mastodon "peak social broadcast". Then again, I wear corduroys...
<midfavila>
nothing wrong with corduroy
<sewn>
whats a corduroy
<midfavila>
type of fabric weave
<midfavila>
sort of old fashioned
<midfavila>
but it's comfy and durable so nothing wrong with that = w=
<thomas_adam>
midfavila: Remember, it's the social setting where it's the worst. If I weren't fucking about, I'd be looking at a bunch of crosswords on paper, nowhere near my phone...
<midfavila>
yeah no absolutely
<thomas_adam>
Yeah, I wear those trousers, and suddenly I crave Werther's Original...
<midfavila>
YOU LEAVE WERTHER'S ALONE
<midfavila>
>:C
<midfavila>
they transcend time
<midfavila>
but idk it's just weird
<midfavila>
going into a room and seeing almost everyone staring mindlessly at their phones
<midfavila>
hmm
<midfavila>
i'm debating on if i want to go to the shop for lunch
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<thomas_adam>
Depends what the cost of a sandwich and a cup of coffee is... here, it can be quite expensive.
<midfavila>
i'm lucky, my boss lets me write stuff off
<midfavila>
obviously not anything fancy but a pop down to the deli once in a while is fine
<thomas_adam>
You mean you get to expense stuff? Cool.
<thomas_adam>
I sometimes let my team(s) do that.
<midfavila>
yeah
<midfavila>
this is the firstl ike
<midfavila>
like*
<midfavila>
"real job" i've had
<thomas_adam>
Oh?
<midfavila>
so it's kind of crazy being able to just get what amounts to a literal free lunch every other day
<midfavila>
well, the job scene here is really tough
<thomas_adam>
Canada, right?
<midfavila>
job requirements are super inflated and because of private-sector abuse of the federal government's temporary foreign worker programme there's enormous competition for even the most basic of jobs
<midfavila>
yeah
<midfavila>
so like, for example, i was applying for what amounted to internships a couple years ago
<thomas_adam>
I see.
<midfavila>
one was in montreal and was essentially just programming set-top boxes in C and shell
<midfavila>
based off linux
<thomas_adam>
Sounds cool!
<midfavila>
and since i learned the basics of that from doing stuff with KISS and fiddling on my own time, i was like
<midfavila>
"wow that's almost a perfect match"
<midfavila>
there were uh
<midfavila>
3.5k applicants
<midfavila>
to that one job
<midfavila>
in the city i was in at the time, even for part-time shift work at like, a gas station or something, you'll regularly see around 500-1000 applicants within the first day of it opening up
<midfavila>
i basically lucked into my current job tbqh
<thomas_adam>
Bloody hell!
<thomas_adam>
That's madness,
<midfavila>
yeah there's a reason i'm trying to escape to britain lol
<midfavila>
canada is going to make the 1930s look like the 20s
<thomas_adam>
You want to come to this pitiful island?
<midfavila>
yes
<midfavila>
100%
<midfavila>
please for the love of god
<thomas_adam>
I wish you luck.
<midfavila>
i'll even start calling trucks lorries
<thomas_adam>
What type of job are you hoping for?
<midfavila>
well, unix sysadmin or netadmin would be nice, since that's what i have experience and education in
<midfavila>
working on some more certs for that
<midfavila>
thinking of pivoting to netsec in a few years assuming people stop grifting in that sector for .000000000002 seconds
<thomas_adam>
Ooooh.
<thomas_adam>
You're looking at sponsorship at the very least...
<midfavila>
if i had more time to devote to studying programming i would apply for internships or entry-level jobs in systems or embedded programming
<midfavila>
yeah
<thomas_adam>
Not many companies are so keen on that nowadays.
<midfavila>
i was looking at scotland but the post-brexit leave to remain reqs are crazy
<midfavila>
yeah
<midfavila>
if i do end up in the UK proper it'll likely be through a transfer within a transnational
<thomas_adam>
Even Scotland is iffy.
<midfavila>
i've also considered the irish republic or germany
<midfavila>
yeah :\
<thomas_adam>
It would have to be, midfavila.
<midfavila>
~~hoping scotland can escape from the UK if i'm being honest~~
* midfavila
coughs. Loudly.
<thomas_adam>
Ireland and/or Scotland aren't a panacea though.
<midfavila>
no of course not
<midfavila>
everywhere has issues
<midfavila>
canada is just facing a polycrisis
<thomas_adam>
Scotland won't hold another referrendum for a long time.
<midfavila>
yeah :c
<midfavila>
i've been watching
<midfavila>
british parliament is way more entertaining than canadian parliament
<thomas_adam>
How old are you? (Your age matters...)
<midfavila>
23 :c
<thomas_adam>
OK.
<midfavila>
if i was twenty years older i'd be able to get in under windrush
<thomas_adam>
Well...
<thomas_adam>
Not necessarily.
<midfavila>
?
<thomas_adam>
Sorry -- twenty years go, perhaps. Now? No.
<midfavila>
yeah, nothing now
<thomas_adam>
Not that it excuses the shit-show we caused.
<midfavila>
my parents would be able to qualify for a passport but not me
<midfavila>
which is irksome
<midfavila>
since we were a colony until like 1982
<thomas_adam>
Just think long-and-hard though, midfavila -- you're geographically closer to the USA. Have you looked there? Much like immigration and the UK is considered "attractive" -- are you sure a move to the UK is the right thing? It's not all rosey here...
<midfavila>
well the USA is dealing with an internal gestapo
<midfavila>
and said gestapo has already detained green card holders and canadians with visas
<midfavila>
so idk if it's the best spot
<thomas_adam>
ETc, etc. Yes, yes... all understood.
<thomas_adam>
There's cultural differences, too.
<midfavila>
yeah. not trying to be snitty or anything >.<;