<midfavila>
one part fine sugar to two parts butter to three parts white flour, cream the first two, sift the last into it mix while stirring, roll out the dough, chill for ten minutes, then bake at 190C until golden brown
<midfavila>
takes like 30min total
<midfavila>
do it rn
<midfavila>
i meant to go to the shops today but i only got out of bed at like
<midfavila>
four
<midfavila>
so that's off the table lol
<kris_>
midfavila i'm not making cookies
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<midfavila>
aw
<midfavila>
:c
<midfavila>
fair though
<kris_>
ive been basically living off of protein bars and trail mix for the past week so i'pm in the mood for something real
<kris_>
i'm*
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<midfavila>
very fair
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<sewn>
midfavila: I want I want I wantt
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<kris_>
a
<sewn>
b
<kris_>
c
<sewn>
d
<kris_>
Incorrect Buzzer
<sewn>
:c
<sewn>
kms
* kris_
is looking into gnu guix
<kris_>
i check back every few years to see if i can boot it the way i want to yet
<kris_>
seems like no
<sewn>
kris!
<sewn>
you should look into sixos
<kris_>
since when is this a thing
<kris_>
havent heard of this until just now
<Vova>
Hi, do you know why firefox refuses to use mako/fnott for notifications ?
<Vova>
dbus related issue ?
<sewn>
is firefox built with dbus support
<Vova>
Good question
<Vova>
Let me check
<kris_>
sewn have you actually used this
<sewn>
no
<sewn>
sixos? no
<Vova>
You nailed it, it's build without dbus
<sewn>
awesome
<sewn>
enjoy rebuilding ^^
<Vova>
:(
* kris_
whispers flatpak
<Vova>
I hate flatpak
<sewn>
why?
<Vova>
I don't like it, it feel shitty
<Vova>
No strong reason, just a vibe
<sewn>
why?
<sewn>
no objectivity on design, just "feel shitty"?
<sewn>
really?
<kris_>
i think flatpak is pretty good
<kris_>
like yeah you're not really using your distro to run those apps but that's kind of the entire point, it's the only truly distro agnostic thing we have
<Vova>
And I have a lot of firefox profiles, and when I tried to make firefox flatpak uses them it did not worked well
<kris_>
and the sandboxing is top notch
<kris_>
sandboxing as much as you can is a *good* thing
<kris_>
least privilege
<Vova>
sewn, yeah just "feel shitty"
<kris_>
(yes there are a few ways to breach the sandbox but not much that can be done about that)
<sewn>
okay vova
<kris_>
sewn so to sum up what's going on right now, void has been increasingly unstable for me for months now and i'm starting to get tired of constantly fixing things that are only broken because they weren't super well tested
<Vova>
But yeah tbf I should just use flatpak
<kris_>
or potentially tested at all, honestly
<kris_>
so i'm just looking at other options *for my servers* at the moment
<Vova>
One thing I hate about flatpak tho, I can't just "firefox -P" in the terminal, I have to "flatpak run ..."
<kris_>
i can guarantee you'll get used to it
<kris_>
i use only flatpak for GUI apps 99% of the time
<Vova>
Yeah ok, firefox in flatpak is working nicely
<sewn>
hahaha
<sewn>
nice
<Vova>
I just add to add the socket=session-bus and filesystem=home, and it grabs my profiles correctly, and the notifications work
<sewn>
you...
<sewn>
what
<Vova>
What what
<sewn>
you seriously used filesystem=home
<kris_>
....what?
<Vova>
Yeah
<sewn>
.....,,,,,,,,,
<sewn>
okay well enjoy it i guess..??
<Vova>
Bro, I have a .mozilla directory with 10+ profiles for work and random shit
<sewn>
right okay
<sewn>
mr busy man
<kris_>
give it access to explicitly what it needs Vova
<Vova>
No, mr not organized
<kris_>
you shouldn't be giving anything unrestricted access to home unless it actually needs it
<Vova>
Why it works great, I removed filesystem=home, and added ~/.mozilla and it works
<kris_>
this is more or less what i'm waiting on
<sewn>
kris you still didnt tell me about sixos
<sewn>
how is it ornot
<Vova>
My experience of flatpak on alpine was shit, maybe alpine was the issue lmao
<sewn>
also ew gruv
<sewn>
grub
<sewn>
Vova: maybe you were the issue
<Vova>
But one small issue !
<sewn>
:3
<kris_>
i'm watching an hour long talk on sixos
<Vova>
flatpak uses xdg-download for the ~/Downloads directory, and it doesn't work, I guess I miss an xdg-??? package ?
<Vova>
I can just put ~/Downloads instead
<Vova>
But it'd be cool to have xdg-downloads working
<kris_>
really i'm just tempted to use devuan for servers
<kris_>
i just don't have positive memories of my time with debian nor devuan
<kris_>
but devuan does have runit as an option, so
<kris_>
sewn also no, these are the patches needed to just directly boot a UKI
<kris_>
which i probably could just selfhost but it annoys me that these still havent been merged
<sewn>
meow
<kris_>
yeah i bet
<Vova>
kris_: alpine is very good for server
<kris_>
Vova meh
<Vova>
Man, flatpak is cool
<Vova>
It works really well, I'm impressed
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<sewn>
what'd I tell you vova
<Vova>
Alright another issue, when I right click to save an image on firefox, the flatpak version doesn't open the file manager to let me choose where to save the file
<kris_>
you need xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
<Vova>
Oh ?
<Vova>
I thought the -wlr was enough
<Vova>
Alright
<sewn>
hmm
<sewn>
a wlroots - compositor library - having a portal to pick a file
<sewn>
makes sense :3
<kris_>
Vova: i have it packaged if you need a reference but i've not actually verified that it works
<kris_>
this is the most accurate shit ive ever seen
<kris_>
(i grew up on a farm)
<sewn>
bwa
<midfavila>
sewn: i saw a documentary a while ago about how the government in america wouldn't even pay for the medical expenses of volunteer firefighters on 9/11
<midfavila>
wild shit
<midfavila>
kris_: move to canada
<kris_>
oh no my medical care is theoretically free
<midfavila>
i'm sure i can smuggle you in a suitcase
<kris_>
i just legit don't want to go
<midfavila>
bruh
<kris_>
i get random parts of my body that hurt for a while and then it goes away pretty often
<sewn>
make sure to care for the smol well
<midfavila>
if your foot is broken go to the er
<kris_>
always been that way
<kris_>
see i don't know if it is or not
<midfavila>
yeah
<midfavila>
so
<midfavila>
go
<kris_>
ill give it a few more days
<midfavila>
to the doctor
<kris_>
as per usual if it stops hurting within a week then it was fake news
<midfavila>
and the doctor can tell you if it's a normal thing or a i-broke-my-foot-thing
<midfavila>
dude ur a computer nerd not a biology nerd
* midfavila
flicks kris' nose
<kris_>
ive taken care of some WILD shit on my own
<midfavila>
i would drag you to the er stg
<kris_>
especially with a pocket knife and bottle of gin
<midfavila>
that's not the flex you think it is >.>
<kris_>
it wasnt meant to be a flex
<kris_>
it's meant to be like "if there's a problem itll be solved"
<kris_>
i went to the doctor shortly after that because the problem *didn't* go away
<kris_>
and that's how i got my blood stolen
* midfavila
squints
<midfavila>
remind me to avoid america whenever possible
<midfavila>
jesus christ
<kris_>
doc wanted to run blood tests to see if i had diabetes from not eating enough based on a few things
<kris_>
so she took some blood right
<kris_>
said i'd be mailed the results
<kris_>
its been like 8 months
<midfavila>
have you like
<midfavila>
followed up
<kris_>
uh
<midfavila>
>.>
<kris_>
honestly i maybe should call them
<midfavila>
i'll steal your nos- bruh
<midfavila>
dude
<kris_>
but i already know how this is going to go
* midfavila
rubs his temples
<kris_>
(you should be, i'm trying to poke at you)
<midfavila>
i'm actually going to bully you
<midfavila>
>:c
<kris_>
but nah that doctors visit was ridiculous
<kris_>
she also didn't call my antibiotics into the pharmacy
<midfavila>
sounds like you went to a shitty doctor
<kris_>
so i show up to get my scripts and all i get is some ibuprofen and i'm like ??
<midfavila>
can't you go to a different one
<kris_>
and this was a situation where i needed antibiotics within 12 hours or i had to go to the emergency room
<midfavila>
isn't that the advantage of muh markets
<midfavila>
or whatever
<kris_>
yeah i can go to a different doctor
<kris_>
i guess
<kris_>
that's just the most convenient one in terms of like not being an hour drive away
<kris_>
and the ER is a nono
<kris_>
unless you actually need it
<midfavila>
weh
* midfavila
smuggles kris_ across the border
<midfavila>
it's okay you're safe here
<kris_>
but yeah that was fun
<kris_>
i got saved by my state provided insurance though lmao
<kris_>
i read their little booklet and they had a phone number you could call to talk to a doctor directly on the phone who could prescribe medicine
<kris_>
explained the situation to him and he just sent in a script for antibiotics
<kris_>
like over the phone
<kris_>
pretty cool thing i had no idea existed until then
<midfavila>
wait until you discover house calls
<midfavila>
so like
<midfavila>
normally you go to the hospital
<midfavila>
but then the hospital can actually come to you
<midfavila>
it's crazy
<midfavila>
actually i wonder if canada even does house calls any more?
<midfavila>
probably not
<kris_>
the blood tests i had before are invalid now anyway
<kris_>
ive begun eating and consuming zero sugar and consuming less nicotine since then
<midfavila>
on account of the liberals and tories stripping everything decent about canada
<midfavila>
probably a good habit in general
<kris_>
i know for a fact i would have gotten chewed out for inhaling 3.5~ packs of cigarettes worth of nicotine daily via my vape + cigarettes + nicotine pouches
<kris_>
because i'm sure that shows
<kris_>
has improved tho
<midfavila>
>3.5
<kris_>
ANYWAY SERIOUSLY
<kris_>
midfavila yeah easily
* midfavila
puts the vapes on the top shelf too
<kris_>
well i still have my american spirit blacks and zyns so
<kris_>
and youll never get them
<kris_>
i run fast
<midfavila>
i have a bicycle
<sewn>
i vomited when i had a zyn :3
<kris_>
i have a car
<midfavila>
i'm just going to joust you with a broomstick
<midfavila>
i have literally outpaced cars on a flat before
<kris_>
sewn yeah probably if that's your first introduction to nicotine
<sewn>
it was yes
<kris_>
did you have 3mg or 6mg
<sewn>
no clue
<kris_>
yeah whoever gave you that is an asshole
* midfavila
baps sewn with a rolled-up newspaper
<midfavila>
bad
<midfavila>
didnt you ever take dare as a kid
<sewn>
hey why
<midfavila>
dont you know that winners dont do drugs
<kris_>
i should get a dare shirt
<kris_>
those are awesome
<midfavila>
i had to do dare like four times
<sewn>
dare?
<kris_>
dare shirts are only cool if you do drugs though
<midfavila>
bc every time i finished my parents would get posted to a new base
<kris_>
not if you don't
<midfavila>
and we would have to restart
<midfavila>
sewn: stupid "anti-drug" PSA in canada and america
<kris_>
also i intend on going back to a doctor soon anywya
<sewn>
ohh
<kris_>
i'm going to try to get a med card for weed
<midfavila>
actual purpose was to turn kids into what amounts to a secret police force
* midfavila
sniffs
<kris_>
it's legal here but i have actual reasons to have a med card
<kris_>
which makes it tax free
<midfavila>
there was another one i had to do called power for bones
<midfavila>
had to do that one twice
<midfavila>
literally just dairy industry propaganda
<kris_>
my mother didn't let me into any of those DARE esque programs @ school
<midfavila>
one of the main characters was named ozzy perosis
<midfavila>
and he was useless bc he didn't drink enough MILK so his BONES didn't have enough POWER
<midfavila>
to fuckin
<midfavila>
support himself
<kris_>
it was more of a "weed will probably make you lazy, opioids are bad though don't" from her
<kris_>
didn't want me to get gaslit
<kris_>
(also didn't let me have sex ed)
<kris_>
sewn but honestly nicotine is kind of a shitty drug
<sewn>
i can tell
<midfavila>
wow rood
<kris_>
i don't know what's acceptable in your region though
<sewn>
shoot
<kris_>
but generally for most people nicotine turns into a thing of "at first i got a buzz from this but now i need it just to feel normal with no buzz"
<kris_>
so really my advice is probably just don't
<kris_>
alcohol is probably the worst thing you could do imo
<midfavila>
i mean in terms of broad social ills yeah
<midfavila>
then again come to think about it if you were to classify sugar as a drug...
<kris_>
most things are fine in moderation but alcohol is not something most people have the ability to moderate
<kris_>
and honestly, i can't stand being around drunk people
<kris_>
so that's part of it
<kris_>
midfavila i don't think you can really compare sugar
<midfavila>
absolutely can
<midfavila>
absolutely will
<kris_>
i don't think sugar is generally associated with completely removing someones decision making ability leading to themselves or others dying on the regular
<midfavila>
sure, it's not explicit, but it absolutely does kill
<midfavila>
and cause enormous amounts of human misery
<kris_>
though i'm not innocent
<kris_>
i usually have like 1 beer per week
<midfavila>
and is very easy to become addicted to, etc
<kris_>
meh
<kris_>
i mean really everything is bad for you, it's about that ability to moderate
<kris_>
stay outside too long get sunburnt
<kris_>
since humans get vitamins from the sun does that mean we photosynthesize
<sewn>
how are cigarettes
<kris_>
really just depends on which cigarette but don't let that become a habit please
<kris_>
it's fucking gross
<sewn>
because it harms others?
<kris_>
smoke one and find out, if you didn't like the zyn you're probably not going to like that unless its a light
<sewn>
just curious
<kris_>
most people just don't like smelling it
<sewn>
ive gotten used to the smell over years
<kris_>
i'm not going to lie to you and say one every now and then will hurt anything at all
<sewn>
of being exposed to it
<kris_>
but constant smoking will lead to literally losing sense of smell and taste and etc
<kris_>
and obviously lung issues
<sewn>
hm
<sewn>
cowabummer
<kris_>
i don't smoke cigs anymore because my family just cold turkey'd it and i don't want to trigger cravings for them when they smell it on me
<kris_>
except for the occasional one where noone is home and i shower right after so they never smell it on me
<kris_>
but generally if you're going to get one, get one that's actual tobacco with no additives
<kris_>
a lot of them tend to be sprayed down with a bunch of bullshit chemicals
<kris_>
tobacco + water, nothing more
<midfavila>
sewn do not the smoke
<midfavila>
>:c
<midfavila>
you could use that money to buy more computers
<kris_>
^
<sewn>
alright
<sewn>
thanks for the heads up i guess
<kris_>
the only drugs i actually fully respect are like
<kris_>
weed and shrooms
<midfavila>
junkie
<midfavila>
:3c
<kris_>
still requires moderation though
<kris_>
midfavila nuh uh
<midfavila>
yuh huh
<midfavila>
is okay though
<kris_>
i havent consumed anything other than nic and caffeine in like
<kris_>
4 months
<midfavila>
not even food or water wow
<kris_>
anyway
<kris_>
the things i'm considering are gentoo, alpine (eww), devuan (even more eww)
<kris_>
mostly as a stopgap
<midfavila>
why do you never consider kiss qwq
<kris_>
i'm not doing that on my server mid
<kris_>
i would just use nixos if it were reasonably possible to harden the boot chain
<kris_>
or gnu guix
* phoebos
recommends OpenBSD
<kris_>
those kick ass for servers
<kris_>
just hate this, things are fine for years and suddenly everything is unstable
<kris_>
phoebos nah, VMM still isn't up to standard
<kris_>
bhyve is but i'm not really a fan of freebsd
<sewn>
y
<kris_>
dealing with communities around projects has a knack for making me not like said projects
<kris_>
i was "HR" as mid put it for freebsd for a bit
<sewn>
mid/??QQ?Q?Q
<midfavila>
what
<midfavila>
what
<midfavila>
what
<midfavila>
what do you want
<midfavila>
do you need attention
<midfavila>
have you been watered today
<midfavila>
>.>
<sewn>
no i just herad "mid"
<sewn>
oh wait no i misread the sentence
* midfavila
turns his nose up at sewn
<sewn>
my english parsing is broken
<kris_>
pesky sed
<midfavila>
havin lunch
<midfavila>
brisket sandwich with mustard and pickles and stuff