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<midfavila> i keep getting requests to apply for jobs on the government's public job board and every time i look the requirements are super high
<midfavila> i don't know why companies that are like, obviously not fake keep posting job ads and then inviting people who don't meet their sky high requirements to apply
<midfavila> i'm not going to
<midfavila> so stop inviting me
<midfavila> it feels cruel qwq
<kris_> i feel that
<midfavila> yeah
<midfavila> it's bad enough when entry level jobs require ten years experience
<midfavila> i don't need you rubbing it in my face
<kris_> yeah i get emails from indeed regularly like "we think you'd be a good fit for XYZ!"
<kris_> >50 minute drive away
<kris_> >10 years exp. required
<kris_> >entry level
<midfavila> this is from the canada job bank
<midfavila> employers wil like
<midfavila> get anonymised sets of CVs
<midfavila> from randomly selected applicants
<midfavila> that get matched by the government's algorithm
<midfavila> and then they can invite those candidates to apply
<midfavila> and you get a little email with a special code you give them so then they can deanonymise the CV when you apply
<midfavila> this one is a security analyst in waterloo for 5000 to 6200 a month
<midfavila> on a biweekly schedule
<midfavila> 75 to 82 hours across two weeks
<midfavila> i don't mind being a little flexible and working on-site, especially for that sort of salary
<sewn> nini
* midfavila tucks sewn in
<midfavila> nini
<midfavila> :3
<midfavila> yeah like look at this
<midfavila> these guys want a CISSP
<midfavila> plus uni
<midfavila> and at least one year of experience but no more than two
* midfavila inhales
<midfavila> the CISSP requires five years of full time experience!!!
<midfavila> what are you on about!?
<midfavila> absolutely foolish
<midfavila> god. jobs in general are such a frigging scam
<midfavila> it's not even that i'm not willing to put the work in, it's that nobody is willing to train
<midfavila> :|
<midfavila> even going to school is bullshit now
<midfavila> everyone's just dumping their work on LLMs and apparently professors have decided to just bend over backward instead of failing people
<midfavila> but because this goddamn industry is so credentialist you still have to jump through the hoops
<midfavila> and then people are like "just spend 40 hours a week contributing to open source if you want a job!" when we're in a godawful recession
<kris_> yeah you have some profs that are instructing students to use LLMs to complete their assignments now
<kris_> it's fucking crazy
<kris_> and yeah i legit just dont understand how you're meant to get an entry level IT role when entry level means "4+ years of experience" or more
<kris_> yet all these companies are complaining about not being able to get employees
<midfavila> see that's why i just don't give a shit about school any more
<midfavila> like
<midfavila> i want to learn
<midfavila> i want to get a job doing this stuff
<midfavila> because i like it
<midfavila> but education isn't even about learning
<midfavila> or even getting a job
<midfavila> it's just the fucking piece of paper
<midfavila> and even then it's not enough
<midfavila> you need to take out hundreds of thousands in debt for the tiniest chance of getting a job that's going to get outsourced or automated at the slightest opportunity
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<midfavila> and the whole time you get brow-beaten to be thankful for it
<midfavila> "you live in a great country! you have so many opportunities! just be glad you're not digging cobalt out of the ground with your bare hands! it could always be worse! back in my day we walked uphill twenty miles both ways in the snow to go to school! just get a job! have kids! buy houses! pay for my retirement!"
<midfavila> >meanwhile people can't even afford food, clothing, or medicine in sufficient quantity and/or quality, every single job pays shit, and everyone has to work 2-3 jobs and a side hustle just to afford a decent standard of living
<midfavila> >get told that a former crack shack half sunk into the ground being 20x the median salary is normal and if you can't afford it you're actually just useless and the economy is weeding out the weak
<midfavila> that's what a functoining society looks like i guess
<midfavila> fuck this shit man
<midfavila> functioning, even
<midfavila> honestly at this point i'm ready to just drop out of the job market once i have myself settled away
<midfavila> there's no point contributing to a society that doesn't hold up its end of the deal
<midfavila> frankly.
<midfavila> like it's just a net negative calculation
* midfavila sighs
<kris_> idk society is a joke
<kris_> bunch of humans playing house and somehow managing to do it incorrectly
<kris_> or rather correctly for the ones in charge i guess lol
<midfavila> yeah i was going to say
<midfavila> this is exactly what the system is intended to do
<kris_> the giver doesn't seem 100% dystopian to me lmfao
<midfavila> we could very fucking easily just do it a different way but that would be communism
<kris_> if you've read the book
<midfavila> and god forbid
<midfavila> >reading
<midfavila> >books
<midfavila> nobody has time for that smdh
<midfavila> that could be time you're WORKING
* midfavila cracks the whip
<midfavila> hyah
<kris_> idk part of the "dystopian" part of the giver is that kids are gauged as to what they're best suited for and potentially most interested in
<kris_> and given a job once they've left school
<midfavila> whoa
<midfavila> that's so fucked up dude
<midfavila> letting people do what they're good at
<midfavila> could you imagine
<midfavila> honestly it's not like any of this matters
<midfavila> climate change basically guarantees we're all fucked
<midfavila> like if we were a functional civilisation we could just change how we do shit and solve most of these problems in one swoop
<midfavila> but because we suck we don't
<kris_> eh part of it is dystopian
<kris_> sec im mid cs game ill explain
<kris_> if you havent read the book
* midfavila puts counterstrike on the top shelf
<midfavila> no more
<midfavila> >:c
<kris_> it is my drug
<kris_> im performing really poorly this game though so
<kris_> but we were required to read the giver when i was like 13
<midfavila> whew
<midfavila> just got my first win in half-earth socialism
<midfavila> tricky game to win without going full authoritarian
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<riteo> kris_: can we swap heights
<riteo> I want to be smol
<riteo> why is the world so cruel
<riteo> at least I'm slender
<riteo> slenderperson
<riteo> somewhat
<midfavila> smolteo
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<riteo> yes pwease
<oceanicc> ahhhh why's my kernel just hanging on "loading linux-.."
<oceanicc> how do I even debug this
<oceanicc> (6.15.2 built just fine 2 weeks ago but right now im just reinstalling kiss)
<midfavila> riteo: gonna put u in my pocket
<midfavila> wait
<midfavila> better idea
<midfavila> turn a coffee mug into a house
<midfavila> >:O
<midfavila> oceanicc: sounds more like a bootloader issue
<midfavila> then again i've only really ever used lilo and extlinux so i wouldn't be able to help much with that
<oceanicc> oh god is it cuz of grub? also how wud I fix that? i cud try efibootmgr but idt thats gonna fix anything and the reason I'm even using grub is to try and pass kernel params (idk if u can do using efistub) to fix any issues but idek what the issue is rn
<midfavila> never used grub
* midfavila shrugs?
<oceanicc> also I uh kinda went a little schizo and debloated my kernel a lot (using a new .config so this is a different issue) and now I have a kernel panic and idk whats causing it!!! it builds just find too
<midfavila> oh
<midfavila> well
<midfavila> i mean
<midfavila> that would probably explain most of your issues
<midfavila> start over with a sane kernel from a distro like debian or slackware
<midfavila> then pare it down once you have a working base
<midfavila> if you're new to KISS and from-source stuff in general it's best to avoid unnecessary kernel tinkering at the start
<oceanicc> actually I tried this too
<oceanicc> i just used artix's /proc/config.gz and tried to compile it after changing like 3 things and even ensured that everything was a module
<oceanicc> still didnt boot, had the same "loading..." issue which is actually why I got suspicious
<midfavila> "everything"?
<oceanicc> SRYSRY
<oceanicc> not moduke
<midfavila> did you compile enough into the kernel to mount the root filesystem?
<oceanicc> i meant I changed everything which was selected as a module to be built in
<midfavila> ah
<oceanicc> midfavila: also yeah I had the filesystem doubt too, what exactly shud i enable for thats again? i have btrfs and efi stuff enabled and I'm not rly sure if thats quite everything I need
<midfavila> do you have the module for whatever your root filesystem is assuming it's not btrfs? if it is, it should work. honestly i would suggest starting the KISS install over.
<midfavila> you might have overlooked a step.
<oceanicc> oh god I'll have to recompile everything again, and yeah my root filesystem is indeed btrfs (didnt even setup my usual subvolume layout)
<oceanicc> i just built btrfs into the kernel
<midfavila> "compile everything"? you only really have to compile the kernel and whatever you need beyond the base rootfs to boot the system.
<midfavila> everything else you can just export from your existing setup
<oceanicc> midfavila: by everything I mean the base kiss system if I did reinstall kiss, not the kernel. also I went thru the wiki and no I didnt miss any step, again this all worked literally 2 weeks ago so idk what I did wrong this time the worst part is idk how to debug it either
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<kris_> so i went on my uni tour
<kris_> idk it was a lot more lame than i thought it would be
<kris_> but there's some cool stuff ig
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<kiedtl> uni is always disappointment
<kiedtl> it's just like high school with less helicopter monitoring
<kiedtl> just go, finish lecture, come back, ezpz
<sewn> really???
<sewn> is it as easy to apply
<midfavila> kiedtl: when are we going to start KISS university
<kris_> they have a cool esports arena thing but they only have teams for shitty games
<kris_> no counterstrike team :c
<sewn> they knew how good you'd be kris_
<sewn> they'll be losing money
<midfavila> aaa i was all excited to try building my next rear wheel with coaster brakes only to find out that they don't seem to accept the cogs i use
<midfavila> every single time, i swear
<midfavila> there's so many different non-standards when it comes to bike parts...
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<sad_plan> im watching izombie, and theres a private military company there which consists more or less entierly of zombies, and its called 'fillmore graves'. I find this kinda funny imo :p