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<kris_> midfavila is gonna be so upset with me
<kris_> gentoo is **incredibly** low friction for the type of setup i use on my local server
<kris_> incredibly little effort put in other than just waiting for shit to compile
<midfavila> i'm already maximum angy because of someone else
<midfavila> don't worry
* midfavila still puts the gentoo on the top shelf though
<midfavila> sorry i was prepping dinner
<midfavila> having rice and lentils with curry
<midfavila> i need to learn how to make curry from scratch
<kris_> all good
<midfavila> that or start using the mixes from india...
<kris_> and yeah you can put gentoo on the top shelf but i feel like taking a loss on this one
<kris_> i kinda just tell portage what i want and it does it
<kris_> in terms of boot chain and whatnot, and i did install with musl
<midfavila> yeah but
<midfavila> python
<midfavila> :c
<kris_> i knowww :C
<midfavila> oh also i was trying out new boot laces
<kris_> a man is tired and wants his server so he can watch movies on jellyfin
<midfavila> i am unreasonably excited about them because they're made of hemp
<kris_> guess you could say.. you're gonna be strung out
<midfavila> quite the opposite
<midfavila> i have a nasty habit of ripping cotton and synthetic laces in half
<midfavila> because they SUCK
<midfavila> these ones are way more durable
<midfavila> and they have fancy brass eyelets uwu
<midfavila> also they were cheaper than the cotton laces i used to use???
<midfavila> i'm hoping to get another pair of boots from solovair soon. these'll be going on them and they'll be my new work boots
<midfavila> lookit lookit lookit
<kris_> hemp is the solution to so many problems its insane
<kris_> im wondering why hemp plastic hasnt caught on
<kris_> because that seems like a good solution to people whining about paper straws
<midfavila> it hasn't caught on *because* it's a good solution
<midfavila> it's the same reason solar hasn't caught on
<kris_> i guess but nuclear fission is also a fine solution for power
<midfavila> hemp is cheap and reliable, and that means that people aren't going to endlessly buy your shit
<kris_> the whole "omg noooo it's gonna melt down" shit is just propaganda from big coal
<midfavila> yeah and that's why nuclear fission is also uncommon
<kris_> guess its the same situation here
<midfavila> because it would introduce abundant energy
<midfavila> flooding the market with a given commodity causes the price to crash
<midfavila> assuming consistent demand
<midfavila> when you pair that with high initial investment
<kris_> it seems like france is really pushing it at least
<midfavila> yyyeah
<kris_> at least in favor of fusion
<midfavila> oh
<midfavila> meh
<kris_> apparently germany is downscaling it?
<midfavila> yeah
<midfavila> they're reverting to coal
<midfavila> have been for years
<kris_> is it all just because of public opinion or
<kris_> like wtf happened there
<midfavila> afaik yes
<midfavila> but i'm also not german
<kris_> insane
<midfavila> so like
<midfavila> yeah
<kris_> idk ill go ask a german fren when she wakes up
<midfavila> idk nuclear is fine-ish
<midfavila> i would prefer thorium
<midfavila> instead of uranium or plutonium or w/e
<kris_> idk if anyone can actually produce a net positive with fusion before we burn the earth alive we'll be golden
<kris_> but fission still is good
<kris_> like very good
<midfavila> >if someone creates a wonder technology we'll be set
<kris_> windmills are stupid, solar is mildly inefficient, fission is >right there
<midfavila> also
<midfavila> no we won't
<midfavila> like
<midfavila> if our economy was based on actually being efficient
<kris_> though i guess all people need to hear is "nuclear" and they're gonna be scared of it
<midfavila> in terms of achieving socially positive outcomes
<kris_> despite the fact that fusion is VERY different
<midfavila> we'd be good
<midfavila> but again
<midfavila> fusion would require enormous investment and crash energy prices
<midfavila> amazing for consumers i.e. regular people
<midfavila> terribad for energy barons
<kris_> yeah
<kris_> someone needs to just get those stinkers outta here
<kris_> their opinion is smell
<midfavila> yeah good luck
<midfavila> if the world moves away from fossil fuels that's going to destroy america
<kris_> anyway, i'm still sitting here just moderately shocked at how simple this setup was
<kris_> albeit in a virtual machine but it will be no different on real hardware
<midfavila> america won't let people stop buying oil
<kris_> using the prebuilt kernel
<midfavila> sounds basically like kiss
<midfavila> ngl
<kris_> yeah except i dont have to package anything
<midfavila> oop brb rice
<kris_> trust me mid i'm getting there but for now i need some stuff to work
<midfavila> NO YOU NEED TO JOIN THE HIVEMIND
<kris_> and my plan right now is to install kiss, modify a bunch of packages, create a new tarball and bootstrap systems off of that
<kris_> with a different build system
<kris_> it's way too easy to just build off of kiss compared to go through the whole dance of getting to the point of having a tarball
<kris_> does it save that much time? not really
<kris_> but it's still easier so
<midfavila> okay back
<midfavila> lentils are yummy
<midfavila> lentils are also crazy
<midfavila> i would put them in the same category as hemp tbqh
<midfavila> insanely cheap, insanely nutritious, lasts forever, super easy to cook, really versatile, and a really reliable crop, apparently
<kris_> i don't even know what that is
<kris_> doing me a learn
<kris_> oh they're literally just seeds
<midfavila> yeah
<midfavila> pulses
<midfavila> they're sort of bean-y
<midfavila> but unlike beans they don't need to be presoaked
<kris_> i wonder what would happen if you tried to make like a hummus out of these
<kris_> tbh i bet that's already a thing
<midfavila> you would get a lentil paste
<midfavila> it is
<midfavila> lol
<midfavila> it's how you make indian curries from scratch in some cases i think?
<midfavila> you would use red or green lentils for that since they break down easily
<midfavila> "dal"
<midfavila> i should try making this actually
<midfavila> i think curry is one of my favourite foods =//w//=
<kris_> never had it
<midfavila> you
<midfavila> you've
<midfavila> you've never had curry
<midfavila> kris...
<midfavila> we need to fix that
<kris_> someday
<kris_> it's not a frequent thing to come by
<midfavila> just go to the international section at the shop
<midfavila> i'm sure they stock japanese curry at the least
<midfavila> if not there might be a japanese or general asian grocery shop nearby
<midfavila> japanese curry is quite different but it's very good
<midfavila> in its own way
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<Vova> Sup everyone
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<asimov> where EliSoli?
<asimov> and hi guys
<asimov> what are you doing?
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<Vova> Unfortunately I'm working
<Vova> wbu
<asimov> wanna switch?
<asimov> because i need work
<asimov> need a job
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<Vova> Hell na
<Vova> I keep my job
<Vova> Even if I don't really like it
<kris_> helo
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<il> Anyone here played many of the pokemon games?
<sad_plan> i used to play pokemon64 on n64 with my cusin. what about it il?
<il> I've never played any and want to get into it, so I'm choosing which game to start with
<il> I think I'll start with fire red
<sad_plan> i never really liked the gameboy games all that much. maybe thats just me. nevertheless, i have fond memories of playing pokemon64 on n64. I thinking about it, I do think it was a terrible game though. i kinda hate turn based games
<midfavila> il: i have
<midfavila> everything after black 2 is kind of meh
<il> What do you think are the best pokemon games, then?
<midfavila> explorers of sky
<midfavila> 10000000000000000000000%
<il> what system is that for? Haven't heard of it.
<midfavila> DS
<il> Ah
<midfavila> it's a roguelike
<midfavila> not a mainline game
<il> What, interesting
<midfavila> but it's unbelievably good
<midfavila> second-gen pokmon mystery dungeon (sky/time/darkness), emerald/ruby/sapphire, gold/silver/crystal, uhh
<midfavila> d/p/pt is classic
<midfavila> black and white and b2/w2 are okay
<midfavila> not amazing
<midfavila> gen one is a little quaint but enjoyable in its own way
<il> Have you played first gen
<midfavila> yes
<il> and second gen mainline games
<il> are they glitchy?
<midfavila> when i was younger my parents gave me an old GBC
<midfavila> first gen is obnoxiously glitchy
<il> I was just recommended to start with 3rd gen (GBA games), to avoid the glitchiness
<midfavila> yeah if you want the game as intended maybe go with firered and such
<midfavila> heartgold and soulsilver for gen 2 remakes
<midfavila> my boss is sitting in the back watching AI-generated facebook shorts with phonk music
<midfavila> please save me
* midfavila dies
<il> What is phonk lol
<il> midfavila: and you're sitting in the front, IRCing haha
<midfavila> it's like, synthwave DnB for zoomers
<midfavila> idk
<il> How young is your boss
<midfavila> he's like 60
<midfavila> :v
<sad_plan> oh, and I read that the new fairphone already has support by postmarkedOS, which is interesting. it does have a bit less support than fp5 iirc, but its still nice. the phone was released just recently
<midfavila> nice
<sad_plan> seems like fp5 has somewhat better support, btut not by a lot. the fp4 has even better support
<il> When my phone dies, I'm going back to snail mail
<sad_plan> yeah. ive been curius about getting a linux phone, but i dunno. i could see myself having it more as a plaything or something like that
<il> I'm kidding, i'll probably get a pixel and flash it with graphene or calyx, whatever makes it possible/easier to run my banking and other utility apps
<sad_plan> grapheneOS grapheneOS grapheneOS
<sad_plan> all day, everyday mate
<il> Does it make it easier?
<il> I have to be able to bank lol
<sad_plan> its just objectivly better than calyx
<il> without going to the bank
<sad_plan> i dun banking stuff too on mine. no issues really
<midfavila> use uconsole
<midfavila> put kiss on it
<midfavila> kissphone
<midfavila> has a kickstand
<il> what's uconsloe
<sad_plan> ^ does not support banking stuff. but still
<midfavila> what more do you need
<il> ah, the thing we talked about already
<sad_plan> I would love a uconsole, but i think it might be a bit too cluny for me
<il> midfavila: 4 hours battery life lol
<sad_plan> theres some mods being made which iirc, gave you double
<sad_plan> community stuff that is. not official
<sad_plan> atleast not to my knowledge
<sad_plan> still not great from a phones perspective though
<sad_plan> more so terrible really :p
<il> One of the main things I want in a phone is to not have to charge more than 0.7 times per day
<asimov> graphene os?
<asimov> where?
<midfavila> il: wot
<asimov> what are you talking about?
<midfavila> i get at least around eight from mine
<midfavila> usually closer to ten
<il> midfavila: I was exaggerating, the point still stands. 8 is unmanageably short battery life for something that wouldn't do 10% of what phones today do
<asimov> i use graphene
<asimov> is fine
<il> You're missing context
<asimov> i readed about maybe using it
<asimov> what is the context?
<midfavila> i find my uconsole more useful than my phone ngl
* midfavila sniffs
<asimov> bro
<asimov> in fact me too
<asimov> but i still need the phone
<asimov> the problem is whatsapp
<midfavila> my phone is just a shitty linux console that happens to be able to place phone calls
<midfavila> uconsole is a decent linux box that can do the same
<midfavila> so
<asimov> i need more than that
<asimov> blame meta
<il> midfavila: what do you do with the uconsole?
<asimov> every citizen in this country use only whatsapp for communication
<il> Ah, you find it more useful because your phone isn't very useful lol
<midfavila> i'm fiddling with the OS rn but when it was up i was using it for SMS, calls, all of my IM (irc, xmpp, discord, telegram), ssh'ing into SDF, playing MUDs, browsing the web
<midfavila> listening to music
<midfavila> had it hotspotting my laptop
<asimov> all you need basically
<midfavila> pretty much
<midfavila> also used it for notes and such
<il> That is pretty useful
<il> What do you use for IO on it?
<asimov> nowdays i'am just quitting the phone and use more the laptop
<midfavila> if i really cared that much about taking photographs i would just bolt the MNT webcam onto it
<midfavila> lmfao
<midfavila> oh also i'm working on getting GPS mapping on it
<asimov> but still need banking and communication
<asimov> but social media is kinda off
<midfavila> il: the integrated keyboard and screen???
<midfavila> and trackball
<il> how big is it
<midfavila> probably around the size of an OG game boy
<midfavila> maybe a little wider
<midfavila> fits in a large pocket
<asimov> midfavila: if you wanted to take photos you just buy a cam an good
<il> yeah, it's big
<midfavila> modern phones are literally the size of tablets now
<midfavila> lmao
<asimov> kinda
<midfavila> my first phone was like 5"
<il> Yeah, I don't use those either
<asimov> i think is better to just split the phone functions
<asimov> like
<midfavila> i mean, purpose built devices are ideal
<asimov> an ipod for music or something
<midfavila> the problem is that people have different expectations now
<asimov> camera for photos
<midfavila> but that's preferable
<asimov> yeah
<midfavila> i'm excited for my tangera music player to arrive
<asimov> oh
<midfavila> most of the time i don't need a phone at all, i just use it for music
<asimov> you getted one?
<midfavila> yes
<midfavila> i'm waiting on it and my beamspring 122 reproduction
<midfavila> i think that's all i have in terms of outstanding hardware
<asimov> i thinking in build some
<asimov> but latter
<asimov> it works with ldac or something for .flac?
<midfavila> dunno, haven't got it yet
<midfavila> still waiting
<asimov> tell me if works
<asimov> i plan to make one someday
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<il> asimov: I agree with that, only...
<il> Podcasts
<il> It's one of my biggest use cases for my phone and I don't know how I'd replace it with a simpler device.
<il> I use antennapod (and have been for over 5 years), I don't think anything as convenient exist
<asimov> if you need for streets
<asimov> is kinda bad
<asimov> but in home you can use computer
<asimov> but i think is kinda easy
<asimov> assuming you can download the podcasts and go to street without network
<asimov> you can just get any device that play song and put the podcasts in it
<asimov> or make your device that get the rss feed and download the podcasts
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<midfavila> yeah just use sfeed and ffplay
<midfavila> or mpv
<riteo> podcasts for some reason are like the "cleanest" media
<riteo> 99% of them allow you to just download the mp3
<sad_plan> if podcasts were inconvinent to obtain, or othewise generally enjoyed, people wouldnt be listening to podcast
<sad_plan> like most other stuff, if things are incovinient, people have less of an incentive to do it. like tossing your trash in the bin, instead of on the ground
<sad_plan> hm, another linux phone https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/liberux-nexx--3#/
<kris_> honestly rarely have the patience to sit and listen to podcasts
<midfavila> need more stoomulus
<midfavila> more stoomulation
<kris_> yeah absolutely
<kris_> because watching podcasts makes me feel like i'm not doing anything productive
<midfavila> that's fine
<midfavila> being productive is lame
<midfavila> i recommend being unproductive sometimes
<kris_> the quickest way to make myself feel like a subhuman piece of shit is to not do something productive daily
<riteo> kris_: btw I went with... a tplink el cheapo
<kris_> The Hivemind
<riteo> apparently that same model you sent me is €33 here which I can only assume is related to tariffs at this point
<kris_> riteo openwrt support?
<riteo> nope
<midfavila> taking a nap is productive
<kris_> well fuck it
<kris_> if it works
<riteo> for a 5 port €19 thing I can't complain
<kris_> midfavila sure, maybe, idk, i feel guilty sleeping at all
<kris_> but that's just part of how we are:tm:
<riteo> netgear is way more expensive on amazon italia than the netgear website
<midfavila> kris_: gonna bully you until you sleep
<midfavila> be
<midfavila> SLEEPY
<midfavila> you NERD
<kris_> pfft
<kris_> anyway
<midfavila> don't ignore me >:C
<riteo> also btw yea I also need a lot of stimulation
<kris_> dang did yall hear something
<riteo> I only hear podcasts when I'm like, shaving
<midfavila> i'm your peer and i'm pressuring you, that means you have to do what i say
<riteo> or doing some other "gotta see what I'm doing" stuff
<midfavila> that's what they taught me in school
<kris_> what i'm doing right now is playing with use flags
<midfavila> very productive
<kris_> im gonna be honest i have never felt so fucking powerful in my life
<midfavila> :3c
<kris_> the amount of shit i have just stripped from programs
<kris_> shit i didnt even know was there
<midfavila> wait until you install kiss
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<midfavila> ur gonna be like
<midfavila> "holy shit"
<kris_> you will not manipulate the kris
<midfavila> "how did i ever use computer"
<kris_> again ill do it later but this is gong on serber
<riteo> I mean most "vanilla" kiss packages literally patch stuff out lmao
<riteo> that's even more hardcore than use flags
<kris_> im so excited, spending a week working on this so i can watch movies again
<riteo> wahooooooo
<kris_> void is going to take the role of container
<midfavila> yippeeeeeeeeeeeeee
<kris_> (gentoo is likely also going on my desktop)
<kris_> i get to binhost here and stage updates super easily
<kris_> like automated
<riteo> absolutely portaged
<kris_> yeah ive been infected
<riteo> the cow has infected you indeed
<kris_> Larry :(
<riteo> wait does super cow powers come from there
<riteo> didn't debian also have a cow reference somewhere
<riteo> or was it ubuntu
<kris_> no clue honestly
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<kris_> hungery
<midfavila> hungy
<midfavila> ungy
<midfavila> eat food
<sewn> do it eat
<sewn> do not et food
<sewn> if u had migrian
<sewn> or havnf migeaine
<sewn> or have eaten food and have migraine later
<sewn> has mist
<sewn> bad misyakr
<kris_> what?
<kris_> sewn do you have a migraine right now?
<sewn> nop
<sewn> it went away must no
<sewn> just now
<sewn> I thubk
<kris_> migraines are the worst
<kris_> i lose the ability to type completely when i get one
<kris_> like properly completely, like ive forgotten how, it's wild
<sewn> I have triggers and I have no clue what they could be
<kris_> the last time i got one i was working on a project and then came back to it after it went away and looked at the code i had written while the migraine was starting and it was something
<sewn> bweh
<kris_> like i was making up brand new types of programming logic that made sense at the time
<kris_> idk its just interesting how insane migraines can be
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<kris_> sewn funny coming from me but have you seen a doctor
<sewn> nnoo
<kris_> migraines are intrusive enough that i think it's worth talking to a doctor about if it's a frequent event
<sewn> if I migraine
<sewn> I vomit :3
<sewn> nop its not frequent
<sewn> but two have happened this year and never before before that
<kris_> yeah i also vomit because of them
<kris_> my main triggers are not eating enough and letting myself stay awake for too long
<kris_> food consumed
<midfavila> kris status: fed
<kris_> had an italian beef sub
<midfavila> boeuf
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