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<esotericwarfare>
I can only boot kiss linux on virtualbox if I add nomodeset to the GRUB_CMDLINE
<esotericwarfare>
I booted ArchLinux and download the kernel and run make localyesconfig and installed all the modules run make INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 modules_install make install
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<sewn>
maybe don't use modules
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<midfavila>
so sassy tonight sewn
<midfavila>
me-ow
<midfavila>
also hi riteo >:O
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<esotericwarfare>
sewn: I don't use modules
<esotericwarfare>
I compile the kernel with * instead of M
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<sewn>
then why are you installing them
<esotericwarfare>
I just realize that
<esotericwarfare>
I did rm -rf /lib/modules && make install still not booting up if I remove the nomodeset from the GRUB_CMDLINE
<esotericwarfare>
Maybe I've to check every option in the menuconfig to see if there's any module enabled
<esotericwarfare>
The nomodeset option in GRUB_CMDLINE tells the Linux kernel not to load video drivers and to use basic BIOS graphics modes until the graphical environment
<esotericwarfare>
I've the Kernel .config support with M
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<esotericwarfare>
but still not booting without the nomodeset
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<kris_>
riteo it's not even an italian food but usually its thin sliced roast beef with gravy for the meat and i put mayonnaise, cooked onions and bell peppers, and pepperjack cheese on it
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<riteo>
kris_: oh wow that sounds yummy
<riteo>
honestly I approve :thumbsup:
<kris_>
riteo yeah its solid
<kris_>
sugar free white monster acquired
<riteo>
I can't wait to be able to take caffeine again
<riteo>
I've been clean for too much time
<kris_>
what was it that stopped you again?
<riteo>
as soon as I can I shall take a monster out of the blue and see time slow down like it did the first time I took one
<riteo>
kris_: I did not really say this out loud before but I have like, a messed up stomach or something
<riteo>
super crazy reflux
<kris_>
oh okay
<riteo>
no idea what it is, my life basically stopped at the moment
<riteo>
I gave up with studying this year basically because I can't drink coffee and whatever I eat gives me the strongest reflux and I just... cough?
<riteo>
my throat is like getting literally damaged by my stomach
<riteo>
fun stuff :D
<kris_>
that's kind of crazy
<kris_>
have the doctors been able to do anything to help you
<riteo>
this is the third thing I try I think
<riteo>
in a week or so I should see the gastroenterologist again
<riteo>
BTW, switch acquired
<riteo>
thank you american monopoly, that was quick
<kris_>
amazon i'm guessing
<riteo>
yea
<kris_>
and hopefully they can fix that
<riteo>
ty
<kris_>
though you can get energy substances that probably should not do that
<riteo>
ehhh
<riteo>
right now I'm like taking a very limited diet
<kris_>
fair
<riteo>
even... bread with honey is making my mouth feel funny rn
<riteo>
I should take only biscuits apparently
<riteo>
at breakfaast
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<sewn>
hiroteo
<riteo>
hi sewn
<sewn>
:D
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<kris_>
riteo american biscuts or the british type?
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<riteo>
dunno kris_
<riteo>
like, dry cookies
<riteo>
Wiktionary tells me that a possible translation would be shortbread
<riteo>
we call em "frollino" usually
<midfavila>
SHORTBREAD
<midfavila>
YES
<midfavila>
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
<midfavila>
the correct type
<midfavila>
are they like, butter cookies
<riteo>
yea
<riteo>
not super buttery
<midfavila>
yeah sounds like shortbread
<midfavila>
ish
<riteo>
but like, yea they got butter in them
<riteo>
not always
<midfavila>
oh
<midfavila>
not shortbread then
<midfavila>
shortbread is really buttery
<midfavila>
:c
<midfavila>
you should make shortbread
<riteo>
no the really buttery ones are... butter biscuits here
<midfavila>
i'm interested in the whipping of the sugar that's described
<midfavila>
my moka already makes really smooth and thick coffee but if i can get it even smoother and thicker...
<riteo>
that's another interesting thing
<midfavila>
do that with some nice, heavy cream...
<riteo>
you see... for some reason...
<midfavila>
aa~
<riteo>
it's apparently a very traditional neapolitan thing too?
<midfavila>
man why does italy get all the good food
<riteo>
I have absolutely no idea how it got here and why it's documented nowhere
* kris_
is having a bad day
<midfavila>
the best canada gets is fucking tim hortons
<midfavila>
it's not even canadian any more, it's brazillian :c
<riteo>
I mean it is documented but nobody points out that it's literally the same thing as the literal cuban one
<midfavila>
some VC company there bought it out
<kris_>
i love situations where some random bullshit happened where literally noone is at fault but everyone is pissed off
<midfavila>
classic
<midfavila>
what's up?
<riteo>
tbf mid all I'm talking about is neapolitan food really
<riteo>
not really italy itself
<riteo>
ok that backfired
<kris_>
midfavila contractors randomly showed up at someones house tldr and completely randomly my dad at 8am is like "cmon you gotta go stay there for a few hours to make sure they don't steal anything"
<midfavila>
bruh
<kris_>
to which my immediate response is "what? god dammit" because i made a bunch of plans today and he just goes "or ill just go instead" and immediately walks out the door
<kris_>
later got a message about "not like i had to replace the neighbors AC today"
<midfavila>
maybe don't hire shady as fuck contractors
<midfavila>
this is why i'm glad i live by myself
<kris_>
so im just sitting here like dude
<midfavila>
my parents used to do that shit all the time
<midfavila>
>make very obvious error
<midfavila>
>tell me to clean it up
<kris_>
the problem is that those contractors werent supposed to show up today
<kris_>
they just >did
<midfavila>
>get angry when i don't want to
<midfavila>
i would send them off
<kris_>
so i'm like why the fuck would you not tell them to just piss off
<midfavila>
yeah
<midfavila>
that's the correct response
<midfavila>
source: i work for a contracting company
<kris_>
so now it's caused this cascading effect of pissing off 3 different people
<kris_>
and i feel bad because now my dad had his day ruined instead of mine and he's like irritated and so am i and etc
<kris_>
anyway, see what i mean by noone is really at fault but everyone's pissed
<midfavila>
nah it's literally just him and the contractors lmao
<kris_>
i hate it when people just randomly spring shit on me and expect me to just drop what i'm doing and go
<midfavila>
the contractors showed up outside the job date, and he didn't handle that appropriately
<kris_>
within like 5 minutes
<kris_>
as if what i'm doing is just immediately invalid
<midfavila>
yeb
<midfavila>
oooooooooooooooooh i see why they can whip the sugar
<kris_>
anyway i told him to just come back and get me and id be ready by the time he'd be back
<midfavila>
it's demerara
<kris_>
and he just didnt reply so now im sitting here doing absolutely nothing because idk if he's gonna take me up on that offer or not
<midfavila>
id tell him to fuck off ngl
<midfavila>
it's really not your problem at all
<kris_>
its not his problem either
<midfavila>
it totally is lol
<kris_>
this is a mutual friend of ours
<kris_>
he isnt the one who hired them
<kris_>
said mutual friend expected either me or my father to be over there to watch them
<midfavila>
sure, but he still could have told them that it's not the right time
<kris_>
and just randomly sprung that on us at 8am
<kris_>
midfavila yeah said mutual friend should have just told the contractors to go away
<kris_>
this is the guy whose kids i babysit constantly and has recently told me he may randomly call me at like 2am if he has an overtime offer for me to come spend the night so the kids arent home alone
<kris_>
before that it was a fully scheduled 8am - 4pm thing
<kris_>
which i was fine with but now he's just introducing so many random "hey i need you at my house like rn"
<riteo>
nah mid we also whip like white sugar
<midfavila>
riteo: yeah but the molasses would help
<riteo>
you take the first drops of espresso and put them in some sugar and then whip it super hard
<riteo>
yeah prob
<midfavila>
plus it gives it extra body
<kris_>
people annoy me, anyway
<riteo>
but the first drops of espresso are really strong afaict
<midfavila>
it's such a complex flavour compared to plain sugar
<riteo>
that sucks kris_ :(
<midfavila>
kris_: you can come live in my closet
<kris_>
theoretically its no big deal but i got very vocally angry about that this morning and pissed other people off as a result lol
<midfavila>
we can get you all set up with a lil' gamer station
* midfavila
nods
<midfavila>
then nobody'll bother you
<midfavila>
krisbunker
<kris_>
are you saying that i'm in the closet
<riteo>
kris_ I'd accept that sounds super cool
<midfavila>
no
<kris_>
:trol:
<kris_>
(was a bad attempt at a joke)
* midfavila
smacks kris_ with a newspaper
<kris_>
but yeah i had woken up today at 2am, walked to the gas station in the middle of the night and bought a pile of energy drinks with the intention of gentooing a few things today since theoretically today was a free day
<midfavila>
riteo: it's honestly a ridiculously large closet considering how small my apartment is
<kris_>
woke up at 2am to extend the amount of time in the day i have to deal with this
<midfavila>
like if it was a little deeper it would practically be a second room
<midfavila>
ur tellin me ur dad interrupted ur gentooing
<midfavila>
disgusting
<kris_>
tbh i'm super motivated to somehow become self sustaining so i can just go somewhere and not have to interact with anyone
<kris_>
nono
<midfavila>
ddestroy him
<kris_>
*he* didn't
<kris_>
our mutual friend interrupted either me or him and my dad chose to take the bullet but is being slightly passive aggro about it
<midfavila>
close enough
<midfavila>
ngl being able to be financially indepedent rn is a mixed bag
<midfavila>
independent even
<kris_>
seems pretty much impossible tbh
<midfavila>
i love how the second i become a real adult there's a fucking recession and talk of war
<kris_>
you and me both
<midfavila>
>global pandemic
<midfavila>
>recession
<kris_>
>graduate highschool
<kris_>
>covid
<midfavila>
>world war three
<kris_>
>fascism
<midfavila>
like dude i'm 23 i'm not equipped to handle this shit
<kris_>
though i cannot lie to you, covid is the happiest i have ever been
<midfavila>
i mean
<midfavila>
same
<kris_>
everyone left me alone for like a full year and a half
<midfavila>
i honestly wish people hadn't stopped with their covid stuff
<kris_>
tbh all i want out of life is silence to sit and think and play with stupid computer shit
<midfavila>
but i think that's because so many people irl are just absolutely miserable to be around
<midfavila>
kris_: and talk to your internet computer frens presumably
<midfavila>
i would be sad if not
<midfavila>
:c
<kris_>
most people these days actively want to be pissed off and will try their hardest to make other people feel the same way they do
<kris_>
it's weird
<kris_>
midfavila yes of course
<midfavila>
i'm pretty sure it's just that our entire modern economy from a consumer services standpoint is oriented towards pissing everyone off all the time
<midfavila>
because that drives engagement
<kris_>
tbh i was thinking about this yesterday in a context of like
<midfavila>
nobody is immune to propaganda, especially when it has billions or trillions behind it
<kris_>
"noo you can't hang out with that person, they have bad opinions!"
<kris_>
"don't talk to them whatsoever"
<kris_>
and it's like these people are just spreading misery
<midfavila>
my thing is like
<midfavila>
are people latching onto tokens, or types
<midfavila>
like is it literally the words being used
<midfavila>
or is it the meaning behind the words
<midfavila>
and is that an isolated problem or a pattern
<kris_>
idk people get mad at me because i hang out with a few capitalists for example
<kris_>
but the thing is, they're not problematic to talk to and will actually like discuss that
<kris_>
but then others think i'm a piece of shit for even considering speaking to them
<midfavila>
the question is whether or not they're dirtbags besides that
<kris_>
it's just such a bad mentality and i feel like those people live in being negative
<midfavila>
like
<kris_>
they're not at all
<kris_>
genuinely pleasant people
<midfavila>
if you actually think you're doing good or w/e, sure
<kris_>
everyone draws a line somewhere though
<midfavila>
but then if you're the sort who thinks bateman is the ideal then yeah i personally wouldn't hang around someone like that
<kris_>
idk why people idolize bateman
<midfavila>
because they're insane
<kris_>
that movie wasnt even good psychological horror
<kris_>
it was a joke, not even slightly thought provoking in any way
<midfavila>
people idolise bateman as the ideal of a sigma hustle grindsetter or whatever
<midfavila>
but like
<midfavila>
idk man
<midfavila>
just stop
<kris_>
idk i dont really get the mentality of wanting to spend your entire life making business related decisions and being entirely emotionless and psychotic
<kris_>
i don't know *why* people think that's something to look up to
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<kris_>
just one of those things i suppose
<midfavila>
because the entire culture we live within pounds into us every day from birth that we need to maximise the GDP of the country at all costs
<midfavila>
i would assume
<kris_>
anyway
<kris_>
i feel spoiled as hell even saying this but i hate the fact that my server only has 6 cores and 12 threads
<kris_>
its going to take so long to compile all of this shit but at least it theoretically only needs to be done once
<LeoM>
Hey guys, first time using IRC! I've been having issues booting into KISS Linux as whenever I select the GRUB entry, the screen goes black. Any ideas?
<kris_>
misconfigured kernel probably
<LeoM>
I used defconfig
<LeoM>
linux-zen
<kris_>
do you have an initramfs?
<LeoM>
nope
<kris_>
defconf at least wasn't enough for my hardware to boot, one thing id try is pulling a kernel config from some other distro and compiling with that just to see if itll boot
<kris_>
and if you're not using an initramfs how are you going about mounting your root
<LeoM>
alright thanks! Will pull it from the existing install and recompile...
<kris_>
and/or using the kernel to do it
<LeoM>
I am mounting it through the grub entry?
<LeoM>
Is that not ok?
<kris_>
just wanted to probe for more information
<LeoM>
right
<LeoM>
I'll give you my /etc/fstab and grub command line in a sec
<kris_>
LeoM if you wanted to quickly test that you could also literally just pull the kernel from the live system you're using to bootstrap this
<kris_>
like copy paste
<LeoM>
seriously? Alright
<LeoM>
will try now thanks!
<LeoM>
In the meantime heres my menuentry:
<LeoM>
load_video
<LeoM>
insmod gzio
<LeoM>
insmod part_gpt
<LeoM>
insmod fat
<LeoM>
set root='hd0,gpt2'
<LeoM>
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
<kris_>
not really my type of thing because it doesn't have logging/supervision
<kris_>
busybox runit is the peak of service management imho
<kris_>
"actual" runit is incredibly messy in terms of source, busyboxs isn't
<sad_plan>
logging can be done in script. and youll notice if your services go down
<kris_>
sometimes you may not
<kris_>
ive had nftables fail in the past and just not notice because it just allows outgoing if that isnt up of course
<sad_plan>
you can also make cronjobs or loops or some shit, to have it check if services goes down
<kris_>
one cool thing nftables via gentoo has by default is PANIC_ON_STOP
<sad_plan>
i suppose theres some usecases where youd want monitoring
<kris_>
soft panic will drop any new or invalid conndctions, hard panic loads a ruleset to stop all traffic
<kris_>
so when nftables is killed one way or another itll do that instead of clearing rules
<sad_plan>
pretty sure you can script that with rcsm aswell. itll just run a script with -s/-k flag basically. the script can be w/e you want really. python, C, go w/e..
<kris_>
probably but i'm setting this up for my server and want to touch as little as possible myself
<kris_>
which is why i'm using gentoo for this lol
<kris_>
"as little as possible" to me more or less just means "i don't have to package things or otherwise"
<sad_plan>
but packaging is so much fun :c
<kris_>
that is "to be continued"
<sad_plan>
lol
<kris_>
i'm kind of scrambling to reduce the amount of interaction my systems need at the moment because shortly i may not have time to sit here and package stuff for example
<kris_>
uni full time + work + whatever else may randomly pop up
<kris_>
gentoo is just the easiest way to get something that isn't complete nonsense that will also be stable and have packages
<kris_>
my desktop is another story though, i'll be playing with that in that context more shortly
<sad_plan>
just use kiss to fetch prebuilt packages from alpine. there you go, now you have kiss but as a binary distro
<sad_plan>
and just dont bother updating things, so you dont have to mess around with something that just works(tm)
<kris_>
that's actually quite the interesting idea
<sad_plan>
exacly. kiss is ingenious this way
<kris_>
i would have just used alpine for this but something they did a little bit ago made me feel weird about using anything from them, so
<kris_>
probably nothing that really matters it just put me off
<kris_>
*anyway* other than openrc i'm a pretty big fan of this
<sad_plan>
you could fetch packages from chimera instead, or arch for that matter if youd rather use glibc. and you can build smaller packages if you also like, but skip those that the packaging sucks monkey balls, or takes forever to build
<sad_plan>
best of both world if you ask me
<LeoM>
Sorry kris, back now! When trying to boot from the kernel from the working system it says: /dev/root: Can't open blockdev
<LeoM>
Cannot open root device "/dev/sda1" or unknown-block(0,0): error -6
<LeoM>
no ext filesystems are listed in the bdev filesystems list
<LeoM>
weird
<kris_>
well for one i doubt sda1 would be your root given you have a /boot partition
<kris_>
second, i'd just set up an initramfs and let it deal with your root, path of least resistance and not that much excess if you use tinyramfs
<LeoM>
sda1 is my root partition
<LeoM>
sda2 is my EFI
<sad_plan>
shouldnt /boot always be the first partition?
<sad_plan>
unless swap is first. but its uncommon to not have /boot or /boot/efi or something similar as your first partition
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<LeoM>
thats right
<LeoM>
on my main pc I have my efi on partition 5 💀
<LeoM>
whenever I boot into windows it removes all boot entries from it because its not partition 1 (I think?)
<LeoM>
BTW I got it booting by specifying the initrd... Guess thats the way to go...
<sad_plan>
i suppose it does work. i just got a bit wierded out but this strange partition table. also, yeah windows is terrible when it comes to sharing the /efi partition... its very common for windows to ruin your linux install :')
<kris_>
even if they're on different disks :p
<kris_>
windows still has some race condition with putting its ESP on the first disk it sees and that can vary
<kris_>
it may or may not actually put the ESP on the disk you've chosen to install on
<LeoM>
wish I could ditch it but I use it for gaming
<LeoM>
tried installing man-pages but it turns out mandoc.bsd.lv is down
<LeoM>
and thats the CDN that mandoc uses
<sad_plan>
LeoM: check protondb. the list of games not being playable on linux is increasingly decreasing :p
<sad_plan>
also kris_ windows has does really not care about anything but itself. poorly designed if you ask me.
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<LeoM>
sad_plan It's mostly performance issues and anticheat...
<sad_plan>
i often find myself blaming things on the engineering or design. simply because ive realised that most things that are broken or something is because its designed this way
<LeoM>
Also how did you highlight my name in your message?
<sad_plan>
what games do you play?
<LeoM>
TABG
<LeoM>
Rust sometimes
<sad_plan>
by simply mentioning your nick. irc will handle that and tag you, and if supported, give you a notification
<LeoM>
Minecraft (works fine on linux)
<LeoM>
How do you mention something?
<sad_plan>
hm. yeah rust does not have a great ranking on protondb..
<sad_plan>
just tab out their nick really
<LeoM>
ahhh
<kris_>
rust is pretty much a nogo unless you're okay with playing on servers that have no anticheat
<LeoM>
i was missing the colon
<kris_>
you dont need the colon
<sad_plan>
you dont need the colon
<kris_>
LeoM
<sad_plan>
just tab out the nick
<LeoM>
does this work? sad_plan
<sad_plan>
in your case, Le<tab>
<sad_plan>
works
<kris_>
sad_plan: holy fucking shit you can tab them out??
<LeoM>
haha
<kris_>
idk how ive never thought about that, ive been just typing them
<kris_>
for like forever
<sad_plan>
yes. itll match if it can.
<sad_plan>
not sure if nicks are somewhat similar. I think itll just auto fill untill it cant anymore, and youd have to fill out anything to distinct the nick you want, and tab again to fill out the rest
<LeoM>
Can you reply or type in multiple lines?
<sad_plan>
so if kris_ and kris1_ are in the room, i should be able to write kr<tab>, and get kris
<sad_plan>
LeoM: i think some clients support it, but not all
<LeoM>
AAAAAHHHHH ld: final link failed: No space left on device
<sad_plan>
lolololol. how little space did you give your partittions?
<LeoM>
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
<LeoM>
8GB :(
<kris_>
dang
<LeoM>
I also have a whole other kernel src
<LeoM>
how much space do you think make clean will save?
<sad_plan>
thats not a lot. you should probably have 10G, or maybe 15G to be more sure. I often do 20G to have some extra space
<sad_plan>
kernel is pretty big, so a lot
<LeoM>
do i have to recompile? Is there a way to resume?
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<LeoM>
Great, I also have to move EFI because its partition two
<sad_plan>
you can unmount it and extent it using a liveusb
<LeoM>
im extending it dow
<LeoM>
*now
<sad_plan>
told you haveing / as 1st partition is a bad idea :p
<LeoM>
well a bit late!
<sad_plan>
nah, just copy your root into a directory outside of /, and reformat into bigger sized :p
<sad_plan>
ive done it several times
<LeoM>
its fine. Im almost finished. Using gparted
<sad_plan>
nice. i tried to move my /home a while back on my desktop. i think it took 12 hours or something, which then failed, and tried to revert, which also failed. I lost 3.5TB of data. :(
<LeoM>
WHAT??
<LeoM>
Jeez
<LeoM>
How did it fail?
<LeoM>
kris_: Update!! I managed to boot with a newly compiled kernel and no initrd. Had to run localyesconfig after localmodconfig to build the modules into the kernel, as it says in the guide... 🙄
<kris_>
:p
<midfavila>
riteo: i made covfefe
<kris_>
LeoM: it happens, glad you figured it out
<midfavila>
it was yummy
<sad_plan>
I dunno, it just said it failed, so it tried to revert, which also failed. it didnt really give me much info really. I tried to see if I could access the data somewhat, but I ended up giving up really. the data wasnt really all that important either. just a bunch of torrents and other files I already had on another disk, luckily
<sad_plan>
LeoM ^
<midfavila>
i was too lazy to go to the shop for biscuits though
<midfavila>
also typical backup W
* kris_
still backs up data to CD
<kris_>
only like super important shit to CD though
<LeoM>
What????
<midfavila>
i wish i could use tapes
<LeoM>
wait why doesn't that person have a name
<midfavila>
i do CD backups too
<kris_>
CDs are a cheap good way to have cold storage that won't randomly die
<kris_>
LeoM: you can run /me xyz and itll do that
* LeoM
xyz
<LeoM>
uhh
<kris_>
so like
* kris_
is currently writing kernel hooks to handle my setup for gentoo
<kris_>
or his
<kris_>
ig
<kris_>
s/me/his
<kris_>
midfavila: i usually vacuum seal mine
<LeoM>
right
<midfavila>
my boss won't invest in actual equipment
<midfavila>
so i have to make do
<midfavila>
running all our stuff on a fuckin uhhhh
<kris_>
super random but i'm just obsessed with this band at the moment
<kris_>
their vocalist is incredibly impressive
<midfavila>
no YOU'RE incredibly impressive
<LeoM>
holy shit
<LeoM>
WHAARGH WEEASAR EHEEARDS SAAEYE
<kris_>
yeah i'm a big fan of heavy music
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<midfavila>
totally unrelated, do any of you play rimworld
<LeoM>
nope
<LeoM>
just bought factorio though
<midfavila>
o
<midfavila>
i've never played factorio
<midfavila>
well, that's a lie
<LeoM>
then refunded it. (and still own the game?)
<midfavila>
i played it for like five minutes
<LeoM>
I love it so much
<midfavila>
yeah i don't think they use drm
<LeoM>
found a loophole in the account linking system :)
<midfavila>
aah
<midfavila>
but yeah i'm just losing my mind about the latest DLC released for rimworld
<midfavila>
or, well, announced
<midfavila>
up until now the game has basically just been you and your one colony
<midfavila>
and like
<sad_plan>
nevermind drm if you can just torrent it instead C:
<midfavila>
people have modded in options to have something resembling a primitive grand strategy layer
<LeoM>
sad_plan: 🤨
<midfavila>
and a starship/space layer
<midfavila>
and such
<midfavila>
but it's all been very patchworky despite best efforts
<midfavila>
and from what i understand now you can have multiple colonies maybe?
<midfavila>
and you can travel around in a custom starship
<midfavila>
gonna make a kisslinux colony
<LeoM>
💀
<midfavila>
who's going to be turned into a hat first i wonder
<LeoM>
Guys whats query in IRC?
<midfavila>
will it be kris_? riteo? sewn? sad_plan? il? we'll see
<midfavila>
LeoM opens a PM
<sewn>
myaaaaaa
<midfavila>
u can be a cat sewn
<sewn>
yippeeee
<sad_plan>
midfavila: lol
<sad_plan>
i should try out factorio. ive it on disk, but ive only made sure it actually starts
<LeoM>
its sick
<LeoM>
I have a legal copy if you want
<LeoM>
oh wait, kiss is musl right?
<sad_plan>
no need. I have a torrented version on disk. with dlc aswell :p
<sad_plan>
yes
<LeoM>
uhh
<LeoM>
hows that gonna work? its binary
<sad_plan>
we can still use flatpak though
<LeoM>
factorio isn't on flatpak
<sad_plan>
so flatpak wine/lutris/steam
<sad_plan>
doesnt have to be
<midfavila>
LeoM: you underestimate the power of nesting containers and compat layers
<LeoM>
lol
<sad_plan>
just torrent, and install through wine
<sad_plan>
easy peasy
<LeoM>
just never found out an easy way of doing it
<midfavila>
there was a guy who got witcher 3 running on linux on riscv
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<LeoM>
wtf
<sad_plan>
lutris makes things a bit easier LeoM
<midfavila>
LeoM one sec will link
* kris_
just uses flatpak for all of this stuff
* midfavila
puts flatpak on the top shelf
<midfavila>
banned
<LeoM>
has GLIBC container support?
<kris_>
midfavila: man
<sad_plan>
in regards to different prefixes and such. kinda automates most of it. you could obviously just script it instead though
<kris_>
the shelf must be huge with how much shit you've fit up there
<midfavila>
yes
<sad_plan>
kris_: there is no shelf. its on the floor with all the stuff mid put there long time ago
<midfavila>
i'm also very good at tetris
<kris_>
sad_plan: is this the matrix
<kris_>
There is no shelf.
<sad_plan>
yes
<midfavila>
oh btw did you guys see that youtube is refusing to service people with adblockers now
<midfavila>
like the site just doesn't load any more lol
<LeoM>
midfavila: what?
<LeoM>
works fine with ublock
<midfavila>
yeah
<kris_>
still working for me so im curious if they're slow rolling that
<midfavila>
no way
<kris_>
also using ublock
<midfavila>
i'm using uO
<LeoM>
uO?
<sad_plan>
midfavila: not supprised. youtube can go f itself really with all their shit. noboody cares, and we will find a way around it eventually
<midfavila>
origin
<LeoM>
ahh
<midfavila>
sad_plan: invidious already has a workaround lmao
<midfavila>
i should learn crystal or whatever so i can chip in
<sad_plan>
midfavila: exacly
<kris_>
hopefully they just give up
<kris_>
youtube, i mean
<sad_plan>
is invidious written in crystal?
<midfavila>
it makes me happy to know that there's probably some piece of shit executive at alphabet that knows about invidious
<kris_>
they've been going after this for forever and just nothing is stopping anyone
<midfavila>
sad_plan: yes
<midfavila>
afaik
<kris_>
and yeah it is
<LeoM>
Guys why when I run localyesconfig does it ignore the LSMOD env variable?
<sad_plan>
i agree kris_ . its a lost battle to try and fight piracy of any kind
<LeoM>
but its fine with localmodconfig
<kris_>
sad_plan: the only thing they actually need to do is make it too difficult for normal people to pull off
<midfavila>
sad_plan: it's not piracy
<kris_>
but i don't think they'll manage that
<sad_plan>
LeoM: didnt even know LSMOD was a env.
<midfavila>
insofar as you can even steal digital content, youtube videos are made available for free
<midfavila>
i'm just refusing to download a bunch of extra shit
<sad_plan>
midfavila: some people seem to think so. because its supposed to have ads, and youre skipping it. linus from linus tech tps made a whole video about it. which was just outright stupid imo really
<LeoM>
sad_plan: no worries then!
<midfavila>
linux is a fucking moron
<midfavila>
linus
<midfavila>
not linux-linus, linus not-linux
<LeoM>
damn
<sad_plan>
kris_: yeah, and in the process loose lots of users really
<midfavila>
>computer says "don't do this"
<midfavila>
>does it anyway
<midfavila>
>computer breaks
<midfavila>
>BAAAAAWWWWWW I CAN'T DO THIS IT'S TOO COMPLICATEDDDDD
<sad_plan>
midfavila: I got which one you meant :p but yeah, he can be kind of an idiot
<midfavila>
like idk if he's playing a character or what
<kris_>
midfavila: did you see where he was going on about how he tried to apt install obs on arch and then complained about how it didnt tell him apt wasnt there
<midfavila>
but i still remember the time he saved the page on a github repo
<midfavila>
nd then he was like
<midfavila>
"buh how do i install this"
<kris_>
infact he said it "tried to install dependencies for apt and just silently failed"
<kris_>
which is.. not even a thing
<kris_>
is the tried to install dependencies for apt on arch in the room with us right now
<midfavila>
bro
<midfavila>
i hate that he's canadian aa
<sad_plan>
they do try to portrait him as if he does not, but I dunno really. ive enjoyd lots of their video for the technical stuff, but some of their content is just stupid really..
<kris_>
im convinced he was just trying to paint it in a bad light
<kris_>
luke had like zero problems
<midfavila>
he's either a moron, playing a character, or a bad actor
<kris_>
all 3
<sad_plan>
kris_: im actually supprised by his stupidity when it came to the linux challenge they did. I wouldve guessed he could do better than that really
<kris_>
idk i quit watching with the whole thing with madison being sexually harrassed at LMG
<kris_>
and the managers doing literally nothing about it
<kris_>
and encouraging it really
<midfavila>
oh yah that's right he's a fucking creep too
<sad_plan>
midfavila: you can also paste just the video string. which I think in this case, is 5UMUEM0gd34
<kris_>
also alex quit anyway
<kris_>
and he was the only entertaining one
<midfavila>
sad_plan: i'm lazy
<sad_plan>
I suspected as much mid
<midfavila>
;p
<midfavila>
alright let's play "will the breaker open when i start xcom or not" again
<midfavila>
all of the outlets in my flat's main room are on the same circuit as all the outlets in my neighbour's main room
<midfavila>
it's such a pain
<LeoM>
whats xcom?
<midfavila>
strategy game
<midfavila>
where you have to repel an alien invasion/occupation
<LeoM>
your computer pulls enough power to flip the breaker?
<midfavila>
no
<midfavila>
nothing i do does
<midfavila>
but my PC plus my AC plus everything my neighbour has does
<LeoM>
right
<midfavila>
esp bc it's only 15a
<sad_plan>
sounds like poor design midfavila.
<midfavila>
sad_plan: it's a pre-electrification building
<midfavila>
so
<LeoM>
sad_plan: no shit 😂
<midfavila>
the outlets in my kitchen are dedicated and also 20 or 25a iirc
<sad_plan>
I rest my case :p
<midfavila>
so i'm just going to run a heavy duty extension cable and then plug in a power strip
<midfavila>
and use that
<kris_>
>kernel hooks
<kris_>
>/bin/bash
<kris_>
what
<kris_>
just keep swimming just keep swimming
<sad_plan>
that not so bad, but having one breaker for more or less every room wold be better practice really
<midfavila>
yeah ofc
<midfavila>
but when this place was electrified the most anyone would have had was a desk lamp or fan
<midfavila>
:v
<kris_>
gentoo already has kernel hooks for my boot setup including my method of setting up secure boot but im sitting here in utter confusion as to how i'm meant to use this shit
<kris_>
tis the woes of something already created ig
<kris_>
wont give up though this needs to be done in the next day or two
<sad_plan>
yeah I get that. but it shouldve been properly upgraded as time progressed, to keep up with time and demands. but lots of housings doesnt do that, because it costs too much money. so now people have to spend losts of money on breakers instead
<LeoM>
where are you guys' from?
<kris_>
chicagoland, US
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<sad_plan>
vikingland
<LeoM>
crazy
<sad_plan>
yep. full of rape, pillaging and ale drinking
<sad_plan>
from horns that is
<LeoM>
nice!
<sad_plan>
yes
<midfavila>
sad_plan: so you're the reason canada has to reinforce the border
<midfavila>
i knew it
<midfavila>
the vikings were the ones trafficking the fentanyl
<midfavila>
on those dragon ships i presume
<midfavila>
also the breaker flipped
<midfavila>
also also they're mechanical models
<midfavila>
not fuses
<midfavila>
also also also i've acquired a heavy-duty electrical cord to run from one of the dedicated-but-unused outlets in the kitchen to my desk
<midfavila>
it fits nicely behind the furniture and my rug so you can't even tell
<midfavila>
i'll need to replace this power strip with a UPS in the future tho
<midfavila>
just to be safe and such
<midfavila>
also i guess that answers your question LeoM. i'm from canada
<midfavila>
aaaaaaaaaaaa i wish SDF provided internet in canada...