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<riteo> sorry people this thing does not turn itself on and the power is super unstable so the stars have to align
<riteo> I'm unironically tempted to poison myself with lead by soldering a goddamn whole ass arduino just for a "wait 10 seconds, pulse half a second" script
<kris_> what are you hosting this on
<riteo> I already told ya
<kris_> most things have a toggle in the bios for power on after AC loss
<kris_> i know
<kris_> i just wanted to make sure
<riteo> a gutted laptop ziptied in a pc case powered from an atx splitter and a boost converter
<riteo> along with like 3 full fat hdds
<riteo> my baby
<kris_> yeah im just surprised that doesn't have a thing to boot back up after power loss
<riteo> IIRC i already played around with the bios
<riteo> I don't think laptop have that feature really
<riteo> that's more of a desktop PC thing
<riteo> that thin client and my desktop have that feature indeed
<kris_> mayhaps i dunno
<riteo> I should really put the client on the thin client
<riteo> I have to just set up the switch
<riteo> sooo uhhh I tried setting the trunk to tagged and i got locked out
<riteo> I guess my router is too dumb?
<riteo> I just set the thing as untagged and put everything on the same switch?
<riteo> never configured one before
<kris_> the problem is that i can't really explain it to you because it varies by vendor
<riteo> aight
<kris_> but you want to tag traffic from specific ports
<kris_> and usually you have like a management vlan with an ID of like 1
<riteo> yea but then do I need to tag it all the way to the router
<riteo> because it's not happy about that apparently
<kris_> yes
<riteo> fuck
<riteo> my router has no vlan funcionality so I have no way to tell it to just go ahead
<kris_> so when the packet hits your router it will see that it's tagged and shuffle it into its LAN
<kris_> oh you dont have openwrt?
<riteo> my laptop is a broadcom shit brick from my ISP
<riteo> wifi is cooked too
<riteo> had to put an AP like next to it
<riteo> s/laptop/router/
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<kris_> yeah the switch just tags traffic and the router does the rest
<kris_> you can't split traffic like that with just the switch
<riteo> what if I ignored all the ports of the router
<riteo> and just like put everything in the switch only
<riteo> would that work
<riteo> tagging everything except the trunk
<kris_> your router has to be running two different DHCP servers and has to be vlan aware so it can view the tag and route appropriately based on that
<riteo> pain
<kris_> if there's no way for you to do this via your router than idk what to tell you
<kris_> then*
<riteo> fuck my ISP
<riteo> €200 and has no vlan settings
<kris_> do you have another router
<riteo> nope
<kris_> you can daisychain them if you were so inclined
<kris_> ah
<riteo> planning long term to get an openwrt lan
<riteo> but first gotta get ftth
<kris_> and yeah vlans are generally like an enterprise gear concept
<riteo> but first gotta convince my parents that their ISP is shit
<riteo> does not support fiber here yet the government infra thing does and a competitor too
<kris_> i'm lucky that my dad and stepmother give me full control over this stuff
<kris_> and yeah we don't have fiber either
<riteo> "no we've been customers for 30 years we gotta stay here, TIM got the majority and most technicians"
<riteo> "no mom that changed a few years ago"
<riteo> "the competitor must be wrong then"
<riteo> "there's a box outside our home"
<riteo> and so on
<kris_> so daisychain
<kris_> both people get to be happy outside of power consumption
<riteo> by box I mean fiber receptacle
<kris_> use the ISP router as WAN
<kris_> for your openwrt box
<kris_> double NAT is fucking disgusting but it works
<riteo> I don't have an openwrt one yet
<kris_> well i mean just incase you cant convince them to change anything
<riteo> gotta convince them to buy a new router :P
<kris_> up until i managed to get what i wanted set up my network setup was fucking bad
<riteo> we aren't poor by any means but still is a chore to buy anything that isn't perceived as excessively important or like... a leisure like a game
<kris_> i basically made a DIY wifi card out of a raspberry pi
<kris_> connect to wifi, route out the ethernet port into a switch
<kris_> because was the only way to get ethernet upstairs for a long time
<riteo> feel ya
<riteo> fun fact
<riteo> APs/Boosters work like that too
<riteo> so like you can wire them "backwards"
<kris_> egh im gonna have fun with APs shortly
<kris_> one of my friends bought like 6 of them and wants a seamless mesh wifi setup
<riteo> ouch
<riteo> never got the seamless part to work onestly
<kris_> irl people i mean and he hasnt been able to get it to work whatsoever so i figure i'm going to end up over there fixing that
<riteo> I suppose that the only way to get seamless is to go full mesh network overpowered stuff?
<kris_> riteo: see my solution to this is just to buy a stupidly OP access point
<kris_> just the one
<riteo> traditional mesh is like, same name for all aps and fast roaming
<riteo> but that's not seamless
<kris_> my little wax210 on max compute power reaches so so so so far beyond my house that i can walk down the street for like 15 minutes and still be connected
<riteo> kris_: that's an awesome idea
<kris_> compte / broadcast
<kris_> s///
<riteo> although it's gonna be fun near it
<riteo> 200 TeraWatts of power in your phone
<riteo> gonna feel like the dude who discovered microwaves
<kris_> my old IT teacher used to resell internet to his neighbors
<kris_> basically he'd pay for internet from the normal ISP and just give everyone else their own wifi SSID and LAN
<kris_> he had like satellite dish looking things outside of his house that *according to him* had a range of like 10km
<kris_> apparently cranking them to max would give everyone headaches that was standing near it but idk if i believe that
<riteo> I'd expect at least some warming tbh
<riteo> like
<riteo> 10 kms dude
<kris_> forgive my spelling mistakes and whatnot right now, i accidentally got myself high by overlapping doses of medicine
<riteo> no worries
<riteo> it's like 3 am here so I don't really mind
<riteo> not that I'd normally
<riteo> but especially now
<riteo> also
<kris_> this is the second time ive done this, i really need to quit it
<riteo> I accidentally 4th'd of july
<kris_> i don't have a schedule to take my meds so i just try to do it at the same time daily
<riteo> as an italian I'm really outraged of my sin
<kris_> sometimes there's a lot of variance and i get a bunch of built up overlap
<riteo> I can eat once a week normal food so I like. Blast myself with food. Unhealty amonunts
<riteo> but yesterday the power went out so it became today
<riteo> and I'm eating... tex mex
<riteo> full american
<kris_> oh i thought you were going to say you set off a firework way too low to the ground and set off the car alarms on every car on your street
<riteo> mamma yee haawww
<kris_> (has happened in my neighborhood probably 30 times today)
<riteo> lmao
<kris_> i'm getting fucking pissed
<riteo> fuck now that you let me think about it there were quite a few fireworks today
<riteo> and this place is full of americans
<riteo> because NATO base
<riteo> I wonder if those were usual fireworks or the local americans
<kris_> it tweaks me out because they're literally right above my house so it shakes my house
<riteo> fireworks moment
<riteo> I mean I can't really consider myself better, we neapolitans love them
<kris_> oh they look amazing
<riteo> end of the year? A metric ton
<kris_> i just hate them being so loud and impactful that i can feel it in my chest
<kris_> the vibrations from them i mean
<riteo> too fucking much. It's basically a meme to hear people using illegal fireworks and losing fingers
<riteo> here we go overboard
<riteo> and don't let me started now that we started winning the national cup
<riteo> last year was the first time in like 30+ years?
<riteo> YOU COULD NOT GO IN NAPLES WITHOUT BEING SUBMERGED BY PEOPLE
<kris_> can't be as bad as british football fans
<kris_> or maybe australian ones
<riteo> now they did it again at the last minute and they closed my fucking university
<riteo> nono I'm 100% that we're worse than both of them
<kris_> lmao
<riteo> wait lemme fetch the stuff from last year
<riteo> like, this year people cheered so hard that they made, no joke, a sismic reaciton
<riteo> reaction
<riteo> the ground fucking VIBRATED
<kris_> thats pretty impressive
<riteo> I can't find quickly stuff from last year but got a fish eye view of the event unfolding in real time
<riteo> like, mostly fireworks https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=U0oKhc6LfX0
<riteo> this is what happened a few months ago: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=Ym4JE-3BjfE
<riteo> it was not as strong as last year (to be precise 2023)
<riteo> how was it already two years ago
<riteo> also correction it's not the national cup it's something similar no idea about football tbh
<kris_> yeah that's more than heare
<kris_> here
<riteo> found something from 2023 https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=zvg6dBKSL80
<riteo> yea we are no joke
<riteo> also something that I love is the fucking iconography lmao
<riteo> we have a fucking lay saint
<riteo> basically this old player, maradona, became a legend and even after death is celebrated
<riteo> when we got the scudetto they even made fucking. flags. with him giving the scudetto from the sky
<riteo> you can't make this stuff up
<riteo> and there are like graffitis of him everywhere and other stuff
<riteo> and since this player was argentinian we also apparently got a huge bond with argentina
<riteo> when that stuff happened in 2023 the celebrations lasted for months and could be heard anywhere
<riteo> I swear I was in valencia and there was like some private disco with a indie song that got associated with the whole event
<riteo> I love naples
<kris_> super patriotic
<kris_> honestly can't say i know much about italy at all
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<esotericwarfare> riteo: I'm from argentinian and I heard you're italian lol
<esotericwarfare> I'm from argentina*
<esotericwarfare> I had a lot of fun with Kiss Linux but I'm back to arch. I'm a traitor
<esotericwarfare> Alpine Linux sounds interesting running OpenRC, BusyBox and binaries with musl
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<esotericwarfare> https://phrack.org/issues/7/3 hacker manifesto
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<phinxy> Have anyone tried to compile Blender?
<phinxy> I'd try Alpine if its package manager allowed all packages to be built from source.
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<sewn> nope
<sewn> thats crazy
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<Guest63> yea i was just making my approx/ every 6 month check to see how bros doin
<Guest63> and lo behold
<Guest63> 10 hours ago i was like whaaaat
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<sewn> I got an email and I did not realize it was a new commit
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<phinxy> It's happening !!
<telecommuter> we're so back
<kris_> i bet he's fucking with us
<telecommuter> lmaooo would be cruel
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<esotericwarfare> telecommuter: crazy
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<riteo> nw esotericwarfare it's fine using something else really
<riteo> yea i'm italian, from naples even
<riteo> WAT
<riteo> DYLAN?!?!?!?
<asimov> bro
<asimov> riteo: are you watching the clubs world cup?
<riteo> I don't really watch football
<asimov> thats why milan loose to fluminense
<asimov> italians are getting off football
<riteo> not where I live lmao
<riteo> my family is the odd one out and we still cheered for the scudetto
<riteo> napoli is going hella strong
<riteo> from what I understand
<telecommuter> dylan probably updating his libs
<telecommuter> ;)
<asimov> what about dylan?
<kris_> he updated his github readme
<asimov> good
<asimov> maybe now kiss will have some light
<kris_> most people i talk to on discord or whatever else are aware of kiss already
<kris_> they're just put off by the whole "package everything yourself" thing
<midfavila> that's fine
<midfavila> it's not for them then
* midfavila bigshrugs
<kris_> i don't speak on that like it's a problem
<midfavila> oh shit dylan is alive
<midfavila> ?
<kris_> yeah
<kris_> he changed his github readme to say "Watch this space."
<kris_> today
<midfavila> >watch this space
<midfavila> :eyes:
<midfavila> god i hate having to be an independent adult and run a household and shit
<midfavila> i want to play with COMPUTER
<midfavila> and read BOOK
<midfavila> not all this lame shit aaaaaaaaaa
<kris_> i wasn't here early enough to have met dylan
<kris_> midfavila: honestly most of the time when i get home i'm too tired to want to do any of this
<kris_> which i guess is intentional
<kris_> tire me out just enough that i don't want to do anything at all
<midfavila> once again i blame the gobbermint and capidalism
<kris_> getting topped by the united state
<midfavila> evry tim
<midfavila> just want bread and bed
<midfavila> cri
<midfavila> but yeah like mon-fri i'm doing shit related to work from 8-6ish usually
<midfavila> and then i just get home and eat golden curry and crash
<midfavila> and then i have saturday to do all my house chores and sunday to do all my errands around town
<midfavila> and i have no time for COMPUTER
<midfavila> >:C
<midfavila> i will have time for computer soon...
<kris_> recently ive just been working on my stupid little fetch program
<kris_> dont have the mental capacity for anything complex at the moment
<midfavila> me
<midfavila> i don't even have the motivation to play games any more
<kris_> caching and parallelized fetch program that is very nearly as fast as fastfetch
<kris_> despite being written in posix sh instead of C
<midfavila> i mean
<midfavila> it's on unix
<midfavila> that's not surprising at all
<kris_> we're spoiled by how cheap it is to spawn processes