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<midfavila> *i* just had my first mandatory office function
<midfavila> i'm like a real professional now
<midfavila> wao
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<riteo> crazy
<riteo> now we're talking business
<sad_plan> Vova: yes, I use oasis with kiss as sewn pointed too
<sad_plan> Vova: I have a repo for oasis+kiss stuff aswell: https://github.com/hovercats/oakiss
<kris_> midfavila: congrats
<kris_> how was socializing
<midfavila> trash
<midfavila> but i did get free steak
<midfavila> so i can't complain
<kris_> did they have other food
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<sewn> why thats some activity
<riteo> ughhhh I need to figure out what to do with my website now that I'm changing username
<riteo> I finally decided my new fantasy name but I gotta build the confidence to do the switch
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<sewn> riteo: what is it
<sewn> i will give confidence
<riteo> aight
<riteo> you know I have a fantasy name and surname to disambiguate
<riteo> and I switched from "Riteo Siuga" to
<riteo> "Dery Almas"
<sewn> wait hang on
<riteo> what
<riteo> it's not my real name lol
<sewn> i know
<sewn> and it sounds ridiculous that it isnt
<sewn> real name + single internet usernmae
<sewn> youre not a book author
<riteo> wat
<riteo> who cares
<riteo> I don't want my real name
<riteo> I don't /like/ it
<riteo> I do not want to be reminded of it
<sewn> okay okay
<sewn> i get that
<sewn> but you dont have to make a entire pseudonym like a book author
<sewn> a simple username (like i am doing) is fine :3
<riteo> I tried other formats
<riteo> oh yea nw
<sewn> i hate my real name too but im not gonna fake an identity
<riteo> I can make a username from that
<riteo> like deralmas
<sewn> riteo no make a single word
<riteo> or just dery if it's available
<sewn> just "dery"
<riteo> if it's available yea lol
<sewn> or "derie" if you want to be feminine
<sewn> no "almas"
<sewn> bad
<riteo> the entire point of the "surname" is to disambiguate
<riteo> because every single five letter combination is taken on the web
<sewn> for me im sewn everywhere and sewnie on one platform meow
<riteo> lucky you
<sewn> on platforms i dont care about - it means the platform is ridicolously packed with users
<riteo> I can't make decent "traditional" usernames
<sewn> and i shouldnt use it
<riteo> so book author it goes
<sewn> whatt
<sewn> oh cmon
<sewn> you have many things it can be based off of
<riteo> btw you aren't being very confidence inducing :P
<sewn> yes because i dont like it
<sewn> so i cant fake it
<riteo> welp
<riteo> too late now
<riteo> I decided
<sewn> i thought it would be good
<sewn> so
<riteo> bruh I did the same this whole time
<riteo> fake name + fake surname
<sewn> yeah but you didnt make it very obvious
<riteo> how is dery very obvious
<sewn> because now i know it has a surname lmao
<riteo> bruh
<sewn> you were riteo everywhere and i never saw this fake surname
* riteo dies
<sewn> even ur git author was riteo only
<riteo> nope
<sewn> and thats okay :3
<riteo> check again
<riteo> always has been "Riteo Siuga"
<riteo> for the last... dunno... 3 years?
<sewn> riteo
<sewn> From: Riteo <riteo@posteo.net>
<sewn> riteo
<riteo> where
<sewn> no surname
<sewn> your git
<riteo> if I look in the godot git logs it's riteo siuga
<riteo> wtf happened
<riteo> also
<riteo> did you just dump my email like that
<riteo> shit
<sewn> ??
<riteo> the bots
<sewn> its public
<riteo> SEWN THE BOTS
<sewn> well youre changing it anyway
<riteo> THIS THING IS LOGGED
<sewn> i know riteo
* riteo cries in spam
<riteo> ehh whatever
<sewn> anyway my point stands
<sewn> i dont see a surname anywhere
* sewn likes that
<riteo> it's already in godot's mailmap
<riteo> aight let's try again
<riteo> you like dery?
<sewn> yis
<riteo> aight
<sewn> but make sure to be ready to extend it further
<sewn> incase its taken somewhere
<sewn> as i said like "derie" lol
<riteo> I mean
<riteo> not sure if I'd like to explicitly "gender" the username further
<riteo> but yea ya know my style
* sewn does not know your style
<riteo> I'm gonna use the fake surname if needed
<riteo> I worked hard for it
<riteo> it has /lore/
<riteo> you have no idea
<riteo> sewn have you ever played a tabletop RPG
<sewn> nno
<riteo> that explains it
<riteo> I guess I'm a fantasy lover at heart I dunno, I did a single campaign in my entire life lmao
<riteo> maybe I should watch LoTR or something
<riteo> but yea I'm not inventing anything here
<riteo> it might seem weird but other things, while cool, didn't stick
<sewn> huh?
<riteo> the context is that fantasy games and stuff require you to make a character with lore and stuff
<sewn> is life a fantasy game
<riteo> I mean
<riteo> yea?
<sewn> say yes ugh
<sewn> okay great
<sewn> start switching
<riteo> but you know dungeon and dragons
<sewn> i do not
<riteo> pathfinder
<riteo> ehhhhh
<sewn> ooh pathfinder apex legends
<riteo> tabletop rpgs
<riteo> nooo
<riteo> imagine like
<riteo> roleplay
<riteo> but medieval or whatever
<sewn> can you switch now
<riteo> and you got dice
<riteo> should I switch now
<sewn> register it on irc
<sewn> then drop riteo the username
<riteo> I'm kinda sleep deprived right now
<sewn> then on codeberg change your name
<sewn> give me your password manager
<riteo> would like to do thinsgs properly
<riteo> also because I need to migrate stuff like, the godot chat username, figure out what to do with my domain, add an email alias
<sewn> do not buy a domain
<sewn> always have an email that is serviced
<sewn> so you dont have to host an email provider (and also dont waste your money on a domain)
<sewn> i know ill be sewn for a while but i regret buying a domain for it lol (its vewy expensive)
* sewn is better at making usernames for others than herself
<sewn> also it was a bad idea to discuss it publically because now anyone that wants to "riteo" "dery" can now link the two identites together via this channel
<sewn> unless whitelogger isnt search indexed
<riteo> I mean
<riteo> I don't mind
<riteo> I'm not disappearing
<riteo> I'm switching alias for a crapton of reasons
<riteo> meh, riteo.dev is like €10 a year
<sewn> ow..
<riteo> even if I switched alias rn on IRC it would say "riteo is now dery"
<riteo> literally
<riteo> so
<sewn> or you can just
* riteo shrugs
<sewn> disconnect
<sewn> and then use the nickname
<riteo> and then?
<sewn> and register it
<riteo> how do you recognize me
<sewn> RITEO
<riteo> what
<sewn> YOU JUST SAID
<sewn> bwo
<sewn> do you want connection or no connection
<riteo> sorry again I'm sleep deprived rn
<riteo> I want connection
<sewn> doyou want
<sewn> riteo->dery
<sewn> or do you want -riteo +dery
<riteo> it's the same really
<riteo> I just wrote the connection here
<riteo> also wait I just realized
<riteo> does it sound feminine
<sewn> a little
<riteo> mh
<sewn> id say its adrogynous
<riteo> that's good
<sewn> look how about this
<sewn> based off my name what is my percieved gende
<riteo> ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<riteo> masculine
<sewn> seriously?
<riteo> sounds like sean
<sewn> all soft letters and ending with "n"
<riteo> pronounced shawn
<sewn> it does not sound like sewn
<sewn> sean*
<sewn> completely diff pronounciation
<sewn> smh
<riteo> I mean shee aun and see un
<riteo> don't worry though
<sewn> that is not a good analogy
<riteo> to my foreign ass it is
<riteo> that said no worries really
<riteo> Names are basically random
<sewn> im foreign too riteo and that is not how u english >:c
<sewn> also fine
<riteo> sorry sewn I 70% of the time automatically read sean
<riteo> might be unironically because there's a one letter difference, dunno
<sewn> stop doing that now
<riteo> being honest as you did :P
<sewn> wah?
<riteo> I mean
<riteo> you were honest
<riteo> I am too
<riteo> like unironically
<riteo> no bad feelings or anything
<riteo> I don't really care how a name sounds really
<riteo> I literally know a girl named "caligula"
<riteo> (online, not irl)
<riteo> and it's literally a masculine name
<riteo> now caligula is feminine to me lmao
<riteo> so yea it doesn't really matter what your gender actually is, especially since a word like "sewn" doesn't really have gender
<sewn> i might get into a fight with you with percieved gender societal constructs over linguistic semantics but okay i believe you youre so correct queen
<sewn> you should care how a name is pronounced much like how you respect a name for a person though
<riteo> sewn I'm not that serious
<riteo> like ok my brain misreads things no way
<sewn> im sewious
<riteo> I have a very weird reading pattern thing
<riteo> remember the regex thing
<riteo> kris_ was right, I literally pattern match when I read
<riteo> Sometimes I accidentally read words in the middle of paragraphs subconciously and go like "wait a second"
<sewn> i do not remember the regex thing
<sewn> but okey
<riteo> I once was looking for a number or something
<sewn> also thats normal
<riteo> and kris wrote it in text, not with digits
<riteo> and I could not find it
<riteo> because I was looking for digits
<sewn> oh lol yeah thats normal
<riteo> aight
<riteo> btw yea gonna switch by the end of the week I think
<sewn> tommorow is the end of the week :3
<riteo> no?
<riteo> it's wednesday my dudes
<riteo> thinking about it it's kinda crazy that GH didn't have riteo taken
<riteo> wtf
<riteo> I am simply riteo there
<riteo> truly peak username
<riteo> too bad that its time has come
<sewn> go eep
<riteo> yea it's like 1 PM here
<riteo> and I've been awake since
<riteo> uhhh
<riteo> 4 PM?
<riteo> yea
<sewn> go eep
<riteo> uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<riteo> yk what
<riteo> I want to change at least the IRC name
<riteo> no ok I'm dying
<riteo> night
* riteo explodes
<sewn> night night :3
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<thomas_adam> Hmm. Anyone up for testing a compositor which connects to x11 to allow wayland applications to work on x11, and hence, any random WM which isn't wayland-compatible?
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<sewn> sounds ridiculous
<sewn> also hi dery
<sewn> new person
<sewn> :3
<dery> :3
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<dery> slowly changing things as I said before
<dery> I must admit it wasn't that bad to be criticized
<dery> paradoxically kinda gave me more will to go through lmao
<sewn> hmm whats a mocky name i can give to dery
<sewn> also in my opinion
<sewn> in my opinion
<sewn> you dont have to liste
<dery> yea nw
<sewn> in my opinion
<sewn> i prefer a "deri"
<dery> I actually considered that
<sewn> and why not
<dery> let's just say that I got a bunch of gripes with my old nick
<sewn> so what does that have to do with i->y
<dery> and ending in the same starting syllabe was kinda ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<dery> sounds more english-ish?
<dery> it's also pretty meaningless, it's apparently a surname in america or something
<sewn> english-ish
<sewn> are you american
<sewn> no
<dery> no but it sounds kinda like a name
<sewn> is your surname any relation with americas or english
<sewn> no
<sewn> but deri cute
<dery> i
<dery> know
<sewn> so deri
<dery> but again I don't like switching from RIteo to deRI
<sewn> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<sewn> okay mr rytio
* dery dies
<dery> too late sean
<dery> :P
<sewn> you do not say sean
<dery> it is done
<dery> you started
<sewn> riteo and rytio are pronounced exactly the same
<sewn> and theyre not english words
<sewn> sean and sewn are english words and are pronounced COMPLETELY differently
<sewn> so SHUT
<sewn> UP
<dery> hahahahahaha
<dery> btw no, those aren't pronunced exactly the same
<sewn> how
<dery> riteo it's read like, literally, italian/japanese style
<dery> ree tee oh
<dery> no wait
<dery> ree tay oh
<dery> yea that's it
<sewn> you cant go back
<dery> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
<sewn> anyone seeing your name in english would say ree-tee-oh
<dery> ik
<dery> ik
<sewn> i would not have thought \1-oh
<sewn> because im not pizza lover
<dery> I mean another reason to have an english sounding nick
<dery> chat do I do it
<dery> do I switch my github nick
<sewn> obviously
<dery> although dery is taken
<kris_> sewn: rih tee oh
<dery> gotta figure out something
<dery> I mean that's the point of the surname
<sewn> kris_: rih and ree sound the same
<kris_> ri as in like
<kris_> right
<kris_> righteo
<sewn> kris_: no
<kris_> that's how americans would say it
<dery> yea ik
<kris_> i'm gonna have to get used to riteo being dery
<kris_> dairy
<dery> again, for some reason my nicks, which are dumb as shit, have lore for some reason
<sewn> LMAO
<sewn> DAIRY NO
<dery> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
<sewn> YOU RUINED IT
<dery> I already started mocking myself as diary tbh
<dery> but dairy is even better
<sewn> wait
<sewn> dery and dairy sound the same no
<dery> yea?
<sewn> lol
<sewn> dairy
<dery> kind of
<kris_> yeah they sound the same
<sewn> heheheheeee
<dery> I kinda read dairy with a hint of an "i" in between the a and r
<dery> like day ee ry
<dery> is that the correct pronunciation
<kris_> there's no correct pronunciation for anything
<dery> right
<kris_> america is home to like 50 different dialects and same with the UK
<sewn> kris_: i pronounce your name as deyodeinoche
<dery> btw yea think I gotta mashup the nickname and nicksurname for gh
<dery> completely expected this
<sewn> but wait
<sewn> make it
<sewn> expected
<sewn> i mean a consistent format
<dery> yea yea
<sewn> whats your surname again
<dery> on telegram i'm using deralmas right now
<sewn> almas yeah
<dery> doesn't sound that bad tbh
<sewn> so are you gonna dalmas or deryalmas
<sewn> or derya
<dery> dalmas I think means something
<kris_> the people i talk to outside of irc do not know me as kris
<dery> deryalmas me no like
<kris_> my nick on discord is krum lol
<sewn> dalmas
<dery> I'd like for it to be a single somewhat memorable word
<dery> dalmas means already somethinnggg
<sewn> okay and
<dery> "a male Dalecarlian"
<dery> like bruh
<kris_> "nuke"
<sewn> theres many people with mashed up names that mean something completely diff
<kris_> dude i want to name a cat nuclear bomb so badly
<sewn> and theyre ok with it :3
<kris_> or bucket truck
<kris_> but i can't have a cat
<dery> anyways me no like
<sewn> dalmas
<dery> I have spoken
<dery> too late
<sewn> you have spoken too late
<dery> I've tried that nick on telegram and me like
<dery> (go ahead spam me there :3)
<kris_> i was glib from like 2012 - 2020
<kris_> and ditched the alias when i vanished from a bad community
<kris_> since then i am krum
<dery> no sewn you are too late, I've been using this on TG for a few days already
<kris_> or just my actual name like on here
<dery> I'm always two steps ahead
<sewn> dery: i do not care im talking about gh smh
<sewn> kris_: i am so glad youre not glib
<sewn> because i would hate you
<sewn> i hate you regardless but not because of your name
<dery> yea but the mashed up nickname has already been decided
<sewn> ok dery
<dery> why do you think that I used telegram for a testbed
<kris_> sewn: why hate
<dery> it doesn't matter there lmao
<kris_> can i make you not hate
<kris_> somehow
<sewn> no
<kris_> ok
<sewn> :3
<sewn> <- filled with the rage of a thousand suns
<dery> bruh
<dery> no hate allowed in smoochy penguins
<dery> only good vibes
<kris_> what if i do something based like daily drive openwrt
<sewn> that doesnt sound based
<kris_> i feel like it's idiotic enough that it becomes funny
<kris_> and therefore based
<dery> welp
<dery> sewn would you look at that
<dery> dalmas is taken
<sewn> okey
<dery> I wonder why
<dery> :P
<dery> destiny chose for me
<dery> deralmas it is on shithub
<sewn> so spanish
<sewn> De Ralmas
<dery> so, with the power gave to me by shitty usernames I thereby declare that it is officially done, the name has been chosen
<sewn> now make sure to get a proper email
<sewn> and some git creds update
<dery> kris_: how is openwrt idiotic
<kris_> as a daily driver
<dery> also sewn yea already set up an alias
<sewn> great
<dery> ohhh like for your desktop
<kris_> yes
<dery> 10 fucking cents extra per month
<kris_> thats what makes it idiotic in this context
<sewn> what the fuck
<kris_> i don't *love* openwrt though
<sewn> isnt openwrt open source
<kris_> yeah
<dery> i get it now kris_
<kris_> like i do really like openwrt just updating it is weird
<dery> also
<kris_> if you want to keep your packages and settings you have to send a request to a server for them to build a new image on the fly for you
<dery> openwrt will one day default to apk
<kris_> and then that gets flashed
<dery> that's gonna be interesting
<kris_> i dont interact with it via the CLI so
<kris_> that part is ok
<dery> kris_: what are you talking about
<dery> what server
<kris_> unless ive misunderstood this
<kris_> it would be better if it built it locally
<kris_> unless it does and i've misunderstood it
<kris_> idk usually i use regular ass openbsd on my routers, i'm still kinda new to openwrt
<dery> I thought there was like
<dery> a server with packages
<dery> or is this only applied to custom prebuilt images?
<kris_> this is to have settings and installed packages persist through updates
<kris_> it builds a new image that includes all of your changes tldr
<dery> oooh it's different from opkg
<dery> that's crazy
<dery> never heard of that setting
<kris_> this is why im not a huge fan of openwrt
<kris_> i want to keep all of my settings and installed stuff
<kris_> ive been just reinstalling all of it every time theres an update and it's driving me batshit
<kris_> but i figure i should try this out
<dery> I mean
<dery> I guess you could use opkg
<dery> and update the traditional way
<kris_> afaik that's outright not recommended
<kris_> ill play with it a bit more when i actually have time to do so
<dery> huh
<dery> welp
<dery> I had no idea
<dery> I mean doesn't sound that bad
<dery> it's presumably the same buildserver as the official one
<dery> soooooooo cool ig?
<dery> lemme know how it goes
<kris_> as long as it's signed lol
<kris_> i want to know how this works
<kris_> like before doing it i mean because this is fucking *weird*
<dery> lmao indeed
<dery> sewn: mystery solved
<dery> my global git identity was "Riteo" but for some reason I set it to "Riteo Siuga" in the local godot config
<dery> or something I'm not really sure
<dery> not sure why it added the nicksurname in the godot repo
<kris_> i wanna get used to godot at some point
<kris_> ive wanted to make a game for a really long time but have gotten sidetracked too many times
<dery> oh it's very plug-n-play
<dery> it's not your regular library, it's basically a Unity competitor
<kris_> the part that stopped me with godot was learning how to draw and animate sprites
<kris_> back in my day we used unreal engine 3
<kris_> or at that time, UDK
<dery> oh like, the art itself?
<kris_> yeah i'm not an artist
<dery> understandable
<kris_> or well i am but on like actual paper
<kris_> ive never drawn anything on a computer yk
<dery> I see
<dery> yea the struggle is real
<dery> a drawing tablet helps but only somewhat
<dery> it's still a different experience, at least with the cheaper ones
<dery> there are the big display ones but they're expensive
<kris_> yeah i got a cheap "wacom one" tablet a while back for osu
<kris_> ended up hating playing osu with a tablet and went back to a mouse
<dery> ohhh I got the same one :D
<dery> they're really not bad but yea osu with those things is completely different
<dery> also I'm not sure how they do not wear the tip instantly
<dery> I assume they hover it or something?
<kris_> they dont touch the tip to the tablet
<kris_> they hover
<dery> ouch
<dery> that sounds painful
<kris_> its bad
<kris_> dropped me from like 6-7 star beatmaps to like 2 star ones instantly and i just never got used to it
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<sewn> i see dery ur doing stuff in #wayland
<sewn> about godot?
<dery> sewn: yea
<sewn> yipe
<sewn> so cool
<dery> I'm still working on that XEmbed like thing
<dery> it's actually compositor independent, it's basically a special shim you run the embedded client under
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