09:08 <polebytes> hey

09:10 <polebytes> when i build package with, kiss b dhcpcd, and then install using kiss i dhcpcd, why dhcpcd cmd is still not found?

14:27 <midfavila> polebytes: have you checked your package manifest and the build script for the package?

14:27 <midfavila> also, check your $PATH

15:53 <midfavila> looks like pine64 is discontinuing the pinephone pro

15:53 <midfavila> in favour of >AI

15:53 <midfavila> who the hell decided to reallocate resources like that???

15:57 <midfavila> https://pine64.org/2025/08/14/august_2025_short_update/

16:03 <midfavila> time to double down on the uconsole then i guess

19:45 <sad_plan> midfavila: I was curious about that one aswell. noticed it the other day...

20:06 <midfavila> honestly pine64 has been going downhill for a long time now

20:06 <midfavila> i don't know if i'll continue with their stuff in the future

20:07 <midfavila> the pinenote is good, mind

20:07 <midfavila> but like

20:07 <midfavila> the pinebook and iirc the pinebook pro have been iffy in terms of availability and quality

20:07 <midfavila> the pinephone has been iffy in terms of quality as have accessories for it

20:07 <midfavila> etcetera

20:10 <midfavila> i do like that they're producing riscv hardware though

20:59 <sad_plan> I get that. I was initially kinda stoked about the pinephone, hoping it would be more successfull. if anything, hoping the ppp was better, but it wasnt really all that much better.

20:59 <sad_plan> riscv hardware is interesting though

21:00 <sad_plan> not that I have a usecase for it yet, but still. hell even arm pc hardware is iffy by many standards because of software availability.. I am however looking forward to the mnt reform next.

21:55 <midfavila> i'm probably going to take some of my existing mnt reform's hardware and get the basic boards for the next and then fab my own chassis so i can fit a custom display and keeb

21:55 <midfavila> and maybe a little SATA setup inside idk

22:04 <sad_plan> neat

22:08 <sad_plan> hm. I havent wanted a watch for years, but I stumbled upon watchy on crow supply, and i actually looks mildly interesting

22:09 <sad_plan> every other clock these days is utter trash with too many features imo..

22:31 <midfavila> watchy is interesting except for the fact that it crams every feature under the sun into its mainboard, has shit battery life as a result, and also isn't even slightly water resistant

22:31 <midfavila> the sensor watch would be more useful imho

22:32 <midfavila> terrorist watch +1

22:33 <sad_plan> touche. is that on crowdsupply aswell?

22:33 <midfavila> https://www.crowdsupply.com/oddly-specific-objects/sensor-watch-pro

22:33 <midfavila> yes

22:33 <sad_plan> I supose what made me interested was the fact that it had better battery life than a lot of other stuff. also it had fully customizable watch faces

22:34 <sad_plan> oh, right, I saw tat one

22:35 <sad_plan> dont you need the actuall clock for that? what they sell is just the internals

22:35 <midfavila> yeah but the f91w is like

22:35 <midfavila> 10$

22:35 <midfavila> if that

22:35 <sad_plan> I see

22:39 <sad_plan> how goes you kiss port though? have you gotten everything up and running yt?

22:39 <sad_plan> iirc, you got it selfhosting now, yes?

22:41 <midfavila> kiss port? i haven't been able to work on it for a while

22:41 <midfavila> i had a basic thing up on the uconsole but it's not self-hosting

22:41 <midfavila> i'm still waiting on my workstation to get shipped out to me

22:42 <midfavila> my buddy keeps putting it off because there's a really unstable situation with canada post

22:42 <sad_plan> I see. why is it taking so long? I mean, how hard can it be to just ship it? does the postal service suck so much donkey balls, that you cant ship it just yet?

23:08 <sad_plan> is there any way to compile a toolchain with lto support, when the native toolchain is built without it? ive not had much success in this in the past, and usually just errors on lto not being supported or something of the sorts