00:33 <EliSoli> hi :3

00:33 <EliSoli> is @phoebos online?

10:32 <phoebos> with IRC, just ask your question

16:36 <dery> holy macaroni ZPAQ never ceases to amaze me

16:36 <dery> its `-m5` option takes _forever_ to compress but I swear it outperforms ANYTHING

16:46 <dery> I swear matt mahoney solved efficient data archival

17:00 <midfavila> oh my god

17:00 <midfavila> i just learned

17:01 <midfavila> apparently international students can study in germany for free

17:01 <midfavila> that's insane

17:02 <midfavila> meanwhile in canada to go to a mediocre at *best* public university *just* tuition is like, over 10kCAD a year

17:02 <midfavila> dude...

17:02 <midfavila> maybe i should move to germany man

17:06 <midfavila> hrmmh...

17:09 <dery> holy based

17:10 <midfavila> the more i learn about other countries the more i realise how much canada sucks

17:10 <midfavila> it's crazy

17:10 <midfavila> qwq

17:11 <dery> remember that there's always the "the grass is always greener at the other side" bias

17:11 <midfavila> my bias is "can i afford food and education"

17:12 <dery> like germany has big issues with their trains I heard and the government either does this based stuff or reconsiders banning adblockers lol

17:12 <midfavila> you say that germany has issues with their trains, and my response is "holy shit germany has *TRAINS*?"

17:12 <dery> fair

17:13 <midfavila> yeah like

17:13 <midfavila> you need to understand

17:13 <midfavila> if you want to go to the next city over in canada

17:13 <midfavila> you *need* a car or a plane ticket

17:13 <midfavila> those are the *only* options almost everywhere in the country

17:13 <midfavila> and even if our passenger rail runs, it can take literally over 24 hours to cover 500km or so

17:16 <midfavila> like if i could make enough money to cover minimal living costs in germany and then get accepted into a public uni and cover the cost of moving all my shit over, i would be *set*

17:21 <dery> yea it really sounds like it

17:26 <midfavila> maybe in a year we'll see

17:26 <midfavila> maybe...

17:29 <dery> wishing you all the best mid

19:50 <phoebos> deutsche bahn is infamous for being unreliable and running late

19:51 <phoebos> but uk trains are just as bad

20:16 <sad_plan> dery: oooh, I wasnt aware

20:40 <EliSoli> is there any free and open-source host for javascript frameworks websites?

20:41 <EliSoli> like, there's vercel, but it is a company

20:41 <EliSoli> where is the kiss website hosted at?

20:46 <phoebos> EliSoli: the community website is hosted on my VPS

20:47 <phoebos> Dylan's is github pages

21:05 <midfavila> phoebos: the uk has trains tho

21:05 <midfavila> i would take shitty trains that exist over shitty trains that don't exist

21:07 <phoebos> of course

21:08 <phoebos> it's crazy how little public transport north america seems to have

21:08 <phoebos> and how far apart things are

21:12 <phoebos> but with uk trains, you book a ticket for like £100 (!) and then it or other trains are delayed so there's more passengers than seats so you're standing for hours. then there's a lack of staff so the train terminates before your stop and you wait another hour for the next one

21:19 <midfavila> phoebos the worst part is that if you try to walk anywhere you're going to be turned into a fine red mist

21:19 <midfavila> if i could at least run to the shops without either a) needing a car or b) playing super suv dodger gaiden i'd be much happier

21:19 <midfavila> :|

21:20 <midfavila> also that still sounds better than the transit system we have, even intracity busses

21:20 <midfavila> not to be playing one-uppance or whatever

21:20 <midfavila> but like in the winter for example it's not uncommon for busses to just

21:20 <midfavila> >not show up

21:21 <midfavila> for hours and hours on end

21:21 <midfavila> i think the record for me is waiting two hours in -50 for a bus last winter

21:21 <midfavila> that fucking sucked

21:21 <midfavila> made me really glad i bought a cloak instead of just a parka

21:22 <midfavila> i just don't understand how it's so dysfunctional. i mean, i do, but it's foolish.

21:23 <EliSoli> i wanna found a small group of devs just like suckless did, but i need a place to host our website, for now it is on vercel.

21:27 <phoebos> midfavila: woof that's bad

21:27 <sad_plan> midfavila phoebos the tube works pretty well though. although its only in london, so cant speak too much of the rest of the UK

21:27 <sad_plan> havent had much complaints about it anyhow, appart from the tube being overly crowded at rush hours....

21:27 <midfavila> phoebos: you have no idea :D

21:27 <midfavila> every day i spend in canada is pain

21:28 <sad_plan> to the extent that if you fall, or you leave your kids in the crowd, consider them gone :p

21:28 <midfavila> please smuggle me into australia

21:28 <midfavila> https://n55.dk/MANUALS/SPACEFRAMEVEHICLES/XYZCARGO.html

21:28 <midfavila> also

21:28 <midfavila> unrelated

21:28 <sad_plan> EliSoli: perhaps find devs first, then website?

21:28 <midfavila> open source bike

21:28 <midfavila> made of extruded aluminium tubing

21:29 <phoebos> it's so ugly I love it

21:29 <midfavila> i mean it's very open source-coded

21:29 <midfavila> :P

21:29 <sad_plan> I like when open source makes it way into other aspects of our life :p

21:29 <midfavila> i'm trying to learn more hands-on skills so i can build things from CC'd or CERN schematics

21:29 <midfavila> because frankly at this point it's cheaper in the long run

21:29 <midfavila> than buying things

21:30 <midfavila> also it's nice to be able to build useful things

21:30 <midfavila> even if it's just from a kit

21:31 <midfavila> i guess that's the ikea effect

21:31 <midfavila> hmm

23:01 <EliSoli> sad_plan: yeah there's already me and a friend, we're looking for devs but it's hard to find good devs with free time, we're looking mainly for beginners rn but we can't find good ones