00:01 <sewn> sad_plan: manual tar with netcat

00:01 <sewn> with rsync I was stuck to 10mbps

00:02 <sewn> manual netcat a tat archive went to 300mbps, the maximum network throughput

00:05 <sad_plan> hm, ok if there were only a handfull of files, I get that this solution is probably decent. but with just shy of 3500 files, im not sure this is better

00:05 <sad_plan> the only time the speed here is an issue, for me atleast, is if I have to sync the entire thing

00:06 <sad_plan> interesting idea though. never really used netcat for much of anything really

05:33 <midfavila> sewn tbh anything that copies anything from A that isn't in B is fine.

05:33 <midfavila> i could just use a shell oneliner

05:34 <midfavila> but i'm lazy

06:07 <Ozymandias42> midfavila, you need the --whole-file flag in rsync. the differential algo can be a HUGE bottleneck in some cases.

12:23 <sad_plan> Ozymandias42: openrsync doesnt support that lol

12:23 <sad_plan> I just use rsync -av --del when syncing. easy peasy

12:35 <Ozymandias42> sad_plan: never heard about openrsync. why is that a thing and how does it differ from normal rsync?

13:22 <sad_plan> Ozymandias42: its openbsd's rsync. it just has less options than regular rsync from samba

13:23 <sad_plan> why they made it, I have no clue. but they did

13:26 <Guest23> What do you think of Nix?

14:20 <sad_plan> fucking webkit man... ive enabled wayland for gtk and couple other things, and rebuilt them, and when I rebuild webkit, I see at the bottom when its done configuring - wayland OFF. even though ive explicitly enabled it.

14:39 <sad_plan> oh, so thats how it is. Ive rebuilt gtk+3, but for some reason it wasnt installed with the wayland stuff.. silly me

16:54 <kris_> sad_plan: as with a lot of openbsd projects im sure they were greatly unhappy with the code quality of the og

16:54 <kris_> that's why libressl exists anyway

17:02 <Guest23> Nix and kiss are miles apart but I'd still like to hear your thoughts... The kiss-adjacent Linux user's perspective

17:05 <Guest23> To my limited knowledge, it's easy to install your custom system anywhere and any time with minimal user interaction. As anti-kiss as it may be, another plus is so many projects seem to support it by default.

17:05 <Guest23> but it sounds like a lot of hassle post-installation

17:07 <sad_plan> kris_: yeah probably right

17:10 <sad_plan> i fail to see how nix and kiss is even comparable. they have wildly different goals

18:21 <Guest23> They aren't comparable, I am curious how people here see Nix.

18:22 <midfavila> i don't see the point of nix compared to a shell script that contains all of a user's configuration options

18:30 <kris_> personally a big fan of it

20:15 <dery> nix sounds really cool

20:15 <dery> also heard great things about guix

20:15 <dery> really scratches a itch with packaging in general

20:16 <dery> like I really, *really* respect their efforts at making packages consistent and reproducible

20:16 <dery> damn I should really continue the kiss sandbox wrapper

23:26 <sad_plan> dery: oasis has 100% reproducable builds C: