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<kris_> i am currently trying the jay window manager i was talking about
<kris_> this is the strangest wm i have ever used
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<kris_> doesnt even come close to sway in terms of being functional sadly
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<dery> oh I know that one
<dery> haven't used it directly but it's actually a really interesting implementation done by a very skilled fella
<dery> they're really active on #wayland and made a very cool tool based on my weird experiment
<dery> oh right it's on oftc.net
<dery> I can see that on senpai it shows as a link, no idea if that's a problem
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<kris_> dery: it's a really nice window manager but it's just got some really odd issues
<kris_> i wasnt actually able to get screen capture working for anything other than wl-screenrec
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<dery> that's weird kris_
<dery> pretty sure its got its own portal
<dery> maybe you just need to configure it
<kris_> dery: yeah idk the portal was running, couldnt get discord or obs to capture my display
<kris_> i did run them with elevated privileges (via jay run-privileged) and that also didnt help
<kris_> side note, this kicks ass: github.com/russelltg/wl-screenrec/
<kris_> it works so fuggin well
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<midfavila> does wayland have a *stable* vnc viewer yet
<midfavila> i found literally one and it's just a fuckin github repo with zero packaging in debian etc
<kris_> midfavila: i sincerely doubt it because VNC isn't really used anymore
<kris_> it's not a good protocol
<kris_> this is what i use for remote desktop stuff
<kris_> runs over ssh
<kris_> it works *shockingly* well, on LAN at least it's low latency enough to work well for twitch shooters like counterstrike even
<midfavila> well, i'm not switching to wayshit on my desktop
<kris_> i mean just use xwayland
<kris_> if you really want a vnc viewer on your desktop, x11 stuff still works fine
<kris_> it's the capturing part that generally doesnt
<midfavila> also sucks >.>
<kris_> i thought you liked x
<midfavila> i'm just going to work on porting my setup to the pinenote so i can use x natively on it
<midfavila> i tolerate x
<midfavila> it actually works at least
<kris_> questionable
<kris_> but anyway
<midfavila> works on my machine
<kris_> i dont know of anyone trying to get vnc to work well with wayland
<kris_> gnome has their own rdp stuff
<midfavila> because of course gnome uses rdp
<midfavila> i'm just trying to get my pinenote to work as an external monitor over the network
<midfavila> i have it working for the most part
<midfavila> but i would prefer to not use kludges like xwayland
<kris_> waypipe kinda blows my mind
<kris_> its the only good remote desktop experience ive *ever* had period regardless
<kris_> and this is a problem i was trying to solve for literally like 10 years
<midfavila> >rust
<midfavila> into the trash
<kris_> i mean im not happy about that but its also not a showstopper
<midfavila> is for me
<midfavila> you know what forget i asked anything
<kris_> a lot of the good stuff in the wayland ecosystem is written in rust sadly
<kris_> jay, wl-screenrec, waypipe
<kris_> it *does* take forever to compile this stuff
<kris_> even with my 20 cores