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<Bienlein> Hello, I am the same guy that annoyed you before, that could compile his kernel probably. I am still stuck. Would someone be down to hop in a call and explain some stuff and work me through it?
<Bienlein> *couldn't
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<kris_> just microwaved myself some good tea
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<sad_plan> kris_: youre wrong. the website even says so. although, it also says 'and more', which points to the fact that it does more than just being a text editor. but its main focus is text editing
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<midfavila> kris_: you should recompile your GCC so it can compile elisp to machine code
<midfavila> altho you need libgccjit for that
<midfavila> iirc
<midfavila> if you set emacs up to byte-compile or compile elisp then after an initial compilation period emacs is much snappier
<midfavila> the former can be done with emacs alone, but it's not as fast as machine code
<midfavila> so like iirc the interpreter actually works with bytecode on a stack
<midfavila> and emacs compiles elisp into the necessary vm bytecode on the fly
<midfavila> but it's not stored on disc because it can take up a little extra space
<midfavila> but you can configure emacs to store the bytecode and prefer it if present
<midfavila> and the same can be done with elisp executables
<midfavila> as for startup the main thing that tends to slow emacs down initially is flushing its cache or w/e
<midfavila> so you can just increase the amount of memory that it can use temporarily so it doesn't flush unused objects until *after* it's ready to go
<midfavila> emacs' defaults are quite conservative so
<midfavila> ye
<midfavila> one sec let me check check my config
<midfavila> i had this all set up a while ago
<midfavila> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck i might have lost my emacs config
<midfavila> unlimited despair
<midfavila> it was like 2k lines of elisp
<midfavila> okay no we're safe
<midfavila> unlimited hope
<midfavila> (setq gc-cons-threshold (* 1000 1000 1000 1000 1000 1000))
<midfavila> just stick this at the start of your emacs config
<midfavila> sad_plan: nobody is wrong
<midfavila> emacs just has an exceptionally broad definition of "text editing"
<midfavila> lol
<midfavila> it's a matter of a philosophical difference between emacs and unix i think
<midfavila> emacs isn't really "unix software"
<midfavila> i.e. it doesn't even remotely attempt to adhere to unix design principles
<midfavila> it's essentially a portable lisp system
<midfavila> it just happens to have been created with the intention of specialising in text editing
<midfavila> so as long as a problem can be framed *as* text editing, emacs can comfortably solve it
<midfavila> and editing text is kind of a broad scope lol
<midfavila> like sure emacs iirc has at least one built in drawing programme
<midfavila> for example
<midfavila> but that drawing programme is really just another way of editing text
<midfavila> albeit a highly abstract method
<midfavila> man i really need to get back into lispy stuff
<midfavila> i want to try using s9fes for prototyping
<midfavila> sad_plan: kris_: if either of you are remotely interested in lisp you should check out s9fes
<midfavila> it's a really superb scheme 4 environment, with a full set of libraries for writing software on unix
<midfavila> also runs on p9 albeit with less features because not all of the same apis are present
<midfavila> sockets and curses for example
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<midfavila> btw has anyone here ever looked at uzbl?
<midfavila> suckless-style tools built around webkit as an alternative to surf
<midfavila> it hasn't worked in ages but it seems really cool
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<sad_plan> midfavila: I got it launching on my desktop. but seeing as its been ages since it last got updated, i decided against it, because of the issues that would follow getting it to work somewhat sufficiently. i also switched fully to wayland/swc now, so it doesnt work anyway for me
<midfavila> fair
<midfavila> i'm just thinking if i want to keep poking at nyxt or try to get uzbl to run again
<midfavila> i can't stand running firefox any more
<shrub> sad_plan: which compositor you using
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