<midfavila>
in theory i'm a lisp guy (scheme specifically) but in practice i'm stuck with unix stuff so
<midfavila>
i'm looking at wily tbh
<saravia>
:P
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<saravia>
a people that get work every day with lisp is a fourtune people, discover the limits of the all language programs and find the extra functionalitty
<midfavila>
saravia: do you have a preferred implementation of lisp?
<midfavila>
i'm a fan of s9fes
<saravia>
...mmm sound nice... and is a bsd extra permissive license?
<midfavila>
i can't recall
<saravia>
if it not have blobs is a nice idea explore it... in my case i only test guile and compare it with gccgo and i take better gccgo for the conectivity task
<midfavila>
s9fes is r4rs and has a complete set of libraries for programming on unix
<saravia>
mmm... yes and not...
<midfavila>
including curses, sockets, and its own custom object system
<midfavila>
it also compiles and runs quite quickly
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<saravia>
midfavila: o/ excuse i don't know what broke my emacs erc session on my vps U_u..
<midfavila>
rip
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<midfavila>
saravia: no luck tonight?
<saravia>
:P luck is my password : P
<saravia>
i don't know if i get it, i see more light screen rather than tmux
<midfavila>
more of a dtach type myself
<midfavila>
with mtm
<saravia>
midfavila: tell me something are you run sometimes google-chrome-stable?
<midfavila>
no
<midfavila>
i don't use any google software to my knowledge
<saravia>
...mmm luakit?
<midfavila>
unless like, a single library slipped in somewhere and i forgot about it
<midfavila>
no
<midfavila>
i use links2 as my primary browser
<saravia>
mmmm i see you are superior to me U_u...
<midfavila>
when strictly necessary i run librefox, but i'm hoping to modify WPEWebkit's Cog browser to be somewhat usable as a desktop browser, and then i can run that from inside a container
<midfavila>
nah nobody is superior to anyone = w=
<saravia>
:D thank you for remember it me
<saravia>
i think i get it... vps@tty session no more broke
<saravia>
midfavila: i think you run plan9
<midfavila>
slackware atm actually
<midfavila>
but usually i have my own distro i use
<saravia>
and you own distro has dbus?
<midfavila>
no
<midfavila>
it was originally based on kiss and inherits its basic design philosophy more or less
<saravia>
you are a greater architect
<midfavila>
no lol i'm just picky
<saravia>
are you past to much time exploring commands? or you have a nice teacher?
<midfavila>
i think a little bit of both. i've been using linux in some fashion as my main OS for about a decade, and about half of that has been spent in and around kisslinux and similar communities
<midfavila>
lots of knowledgeable folks with different specialties to learn from
<saravia>
midfavila: and after a decade you get build you own distro? nice im near to a decade
<saravia>
too... i have 9 years runing gnu+linux
<midfavila>
well, i started working on my own fork of kiss a few years ago
<midfavila>
2021-2022 i think is when i hard-forked the root filesystem and core repositories
<midfavila>
atm i'm rewriting everything to be independent of kiss
<midfavila>
the goal is to basically just have the entire package system be written in portable posix shell scripts and makefiles, with zero reliance on an outside package manager
<midfavila>
everything should be freestanding
<midfavila>
all of the software i use is also written in fairly portable C. i have a couple of packages i use that are written in python or perl but i'm hoping to replace them at some point
<saravia>
on posix shell scripts what commands are... for example?
<midfavila>
well, the commands are generally the same on every unix machine. it's just what flags are available and what the grammar of your interpreter is
<midfavila>
i'm not familiar with bash or fish or anything else so i can't really explain the difference between, say, bash and posix shell
<midfavila>
but i would highly recommend you read the pure sh bible by the creator of kiss linux, dylan araps, on github
<midfavila>
he's quite the expert when it comes to shell
<saravia>
sh bible is a book?
<midfavila>
yes
<saravia>
nice... the lask week i was reading a lot with my slop llm script Libros-system-es-en-de...
<midfavila>
tsk tsk tsk
<midfavila>
i didn't think hyperbola was a slopshop :P
<saravia>
U_u... im not a good reader but this slop jump me into books U_u..
<midfavila>
oh, i wouldn't worry about it
<saravia>
hyperbola is a slop llm hater U_u......
<midfavila>
best to just read as much as you can. you'll get better with time.
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<definitelynotkri>
midfavila: dang, ill figure something out i guess i might have to run my bouncer through tor or something
<definitelynotkri>
i don't want to deal with setting that up but fuck me i guess
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<midfavila>
definitelynotkri why are you dropping libera lol
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<dery>
midfavila: kris' vpn got banned
<midfavila>
wuh
<midfavila>
kris what'd you do
<midfavila>
>:O
<midfavila>
did you steal everyone's nuggs or something
<dery>
nothing
<dery>
vpn IPs are shared I think
<dery>
libera said that they've seen abuse and blocked SASL logins from there, which doesn't honestly make much sense
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<midfavila>
aah
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<definitelynotkri>
midfavila: i didnt do anything, they blanket banned airvpn for like questionable reasons imo
<definitelynotkri>
so im not banned i just consider it a ban
<definitelynotkri>
im trying to figure out what to do to get back on here, soju doesnt have a "sasl only or fail" option so the cloak can infact just eat shit
<definitelynotkri>
i was asking if you're on oftc because that's still hooked up to my stuff because they dont block vpns whatsoever
<definitelynotkri>
for the meantime i mean until i figure something out that im happy with