<midfavila>
it's my attempt to make a "bulgogi bowl"
<midfavila>
i had one for the first time the other day and i was kind of blown away
<midfavila>
although i'm making a few changes out of necessity and preference
<kris_>
first time im hearing of that
<midfavila>
quinoa which i've toasted in sesame oil and then steamed, along with one of those asian-style vegetable mixes which is also steamed
<midfavila>
and some mince pork because i don't have beef
<midfavila>
but it's being fried in a sauce made of uhhh
<midfavila>
soya sauce w/ added shiitake, green onions, some beef bouillon (for the beefy flavour), a little honey for caramelisation, ginger, and garlic
<midfavila>
brb stove
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<kris_>
seems interesting
<kris_>
and kinda hard to make
<midfavila>
nah
<midfavila>
maybe 20 minutes of actual work
<midfavila>
tops
<midfavila>
the "hardest" part of the whole thing is whipping the ingredients for the sauce together
<midfavila>
but i just use pre-puree'd ginger and garlic
<midfavila>
so i just threw a few spoonfuls of that in a bowl with some soya sauce, honey, and the other stuff and whipped it together
<midfavila>
then the pork has been frying in some spare beef tallow i had (for extra flavour) for the past bit
<midfavila>
i've just finished cooking it with the sauce which took maybe five minutes
<midfavila>
turned out like a solid 9/10
<midfavila>
as for the veggies and quinoa i just rinsed the quinoa and then threw it all in my rice cooker
<midfavila>
oop food is done
<midfavila>
oh yeah this is going on the menu
<midfavila>
i'm glad i made extra sauce
<kris_>
when are you gonna open a restaurant
<midfavila>
i'm not good enough at cooking to open a restaurant lmao
<midfavila>
and anyway i would rather do some stuff with the local community kitchen
<midfavila>
what i would love to see is the creation of like
<midfavila>
a "free cafe"
<midfavila>
that can be run by the local food not bombs chapter and everyone can just eat there for free
<kris_>
at-cost would be nice im tired of how expensive food is
<midfavila>
yeah you're fucking telling me x-x
<midfavila>
did i mention it's at the point where it's cheaper for me to just eat at buffets literally every day than cook at home
<kris_>
i remember you mentioning that before i got banished to the shadow realm i think
<midfavila>
a basic grocery run for the month is ~=CAD600
<midfavila>
if i were to eat at the local uni it's 15-20 bucks a day depending on whether i go for breakfast or lunch
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<midfavila>
and they run five days a week for lunch plus breakfast on weekends
<kris_>
see thats insane to me
<midfavila>
so it's really quite competitive considering like
<kris_>
a single individual small slice of mediocre ass pizza is like $6 at my uni
<midfavila>
i'm eating much much better at the cafeteria
<midfavila>
like it's 14 bucks and you can eat however much you want of their meats, fruits, vegetables, whatever
<midfavila>
fresh bread and bagels
<midfavila>
everything
<midfavila>
versus 600 bucks a month to live on oatmeal and mincemeat
<midfavila>
tbh if i could like
<midfavila>
help establish a commune here that's actually viable i would consider my life a success
<midfavila>
like get all of the different organisations here that provide services and shit to pool their resources, buy a building or otherwise (legally) acquire one, and then just like
<midfavila>
idk set up some barracks and spend the day just doing shit for people idk
<midfavila>
stuff
<kris_>
yeah that would be more impact than 99% of people will ever have
<kris_>
positive or negative
<midfavila>
maybe
<midfavila>
you know what
<midfavila>
some sweet and spicy tofu would go well with this
<midfavila>
fried up nice and crispy
<midfavila>
speaking of which
<midfavila>
something i learned today
<midfavila>
apparently the section of society that's terrified of soybeans has now evolved to being terrified of eating vegetables in general
<midfavila>
kris_ you're hip with the youth is this true
<kris_>
idfk i dont talk to people
<kris_>
i didnt know people were terrified of soybeans
<midfavila>
yeah illiterate morons a few years ago were screeching about muh soy
<midfavila>
muh phytoestrogens
<midfavila>
if you eat tofu you're going to instantly wake up wearing skirts and thigh highs
<midfavila>
because i guess they flunked high school bio and chem
<kris_>
nah that only happens if you install arch
<midfavila>
idk i installed arch and didn't get my complimentary programmer socks
<midfavila>
then again i also jumped ship to crux like a week later because arch fucking sucks
<kris_>
sorry version 2 of my statement just released
<kris_>
that happens if you install arch and like it
<midfavila>
damn
<kris_>
i'm known as a goalpost mover
<midfavila>
domain expander
<gentoouser1337>
how is crux?
<midfavila>
crux is fine
<gentoouser1337>
never used it
<midfavila>
kiss is better
<kris_>
its ok
<kris_>
they have a lot of packages tho
<midfavila>
i can't actually fathom using anything other than kiss at this point as my main system
<midfavila>
or like something similar to it
<midfavila>
SHIT THAT REMINDS ME I NEED TO FINISH MY DISTREO
<midfavila>
fhidsgfshdh friefhured
<midfavila>
i haven't touched it in like a fucking week holy SHIT dude
<kris_>
i dont feel like doing literally anything right now idk whats going on
<kris_>
i find it difficult to even watch a youtube video or show or movie right now
<midfavila>
idk everything sucks and it's hard to feel motivation these days
<midfavila>
i literally haven't gotten out of bed for anything over the past week
<kris_>
this is just today for me i'm just like exhausted or something
<midfavila>
not even metaphorically
<stilic>
I'm making my own distro
<midfavila>
aside from like what's necessary to not die i guess
<midfavila>
i'm just bluuuuh
<midfavila>
stilic: very cool :3
<kris_>
im trying to get myself back into the flow after dealing with babysitting a genuine actual sociopath 8 hours a day all week
<midfavila>
what are you doing with it? or is it just an lfs setup kinda thing?
<midfavila>
it makes it unnecessarily complicated to just drop in and work on things
<midfavila>
whoa
<midfavila>
that's pretty cool stilic
<kris_>
i looked into guix again and it still wont do certain things i need it to do and honestly im a bit put off by the community
<kris_>
the community on IRC seems cool but i talked to some people who use it on discord the other day and ive never seen a more insufferable group
<kris_>
even the nixos people arent as bad
<midfavila>
stilic: i might steal ur bootstrap
<kris_>
also yes very cool stilic
<midfavila>
kris_: your first mistake was using dick sored
<kris_>
no choice
<midfavila>
always a choice
<midfavila>
man
<midfavila>
you know what
<kris_>
hey at least discord doesnt block vpns like fucking liberachat
<midfavila>
semi-related
<midfavila>
i've been thinking lately about how much the state of the net fucking blows in terms of IMs and shit like that
<midfavila>
like
<midfavila>
on the one hand
<midfavila>
IRC and shit is pretty dead
<midfavila>
on the other hand
<midfavila>
discord and telegram and all that other shit makes me want to fucking shoot myself
<midfavila>
like why can't cool people just exist
<midfavila>
and not use that shit
<kris_>
IRC is a lot more alive than discord
<kris_>
that sounds stupid but let me explain
<midfavila>
idk about that one there's like 1k people on here and most of them lurk lol
<midfavila>
ultimately people just need to be cooler >:C
<kris_>
i have a reasonable level of confidence that when i talk to people on here they're not going to basically be on autopilot and just regurgitate what their favorite linux tuber said
<kris_>
the culture around the two platforms is totally different
<midfavila>
yeah no 100%
<kris_>
i dont consider discord to be alive when the people there basically aren't
<midfavila>
but the ratio of irc to discord is far too low
<stilic>
midfavila: what's your distro project about btw?
<kris_>
which is horrendously egotistical of me to say but still
<midfavila>
stilic it's my computer autism hugbox
<midfavila>
kris_: no you're 100% right
<midfavila>
discord and telegram et al are full of braindead morons
<kris_>
im not convinced they arent LLMs
<midfavila>
no they're just stupid
<stilic>
midfavila: do you have a repo?
<kris_>
you can legitimately prompt inject these people
<midfavila>
i'm not even going to say i'm *not* stupid
<kris_>
i don't like seeing LLMs author commits, i don't like seeing AI have a heavy handed involvement
<kris_>
at the same time, pretending they aren't useful to some degree is illogical to me
<kris_>
i could sleep on a fence
<kris_>
i use LLMs pretty often personally just to find information on things because there's not a decent search engine left
<kris_>
searxng is OK
<kris_>
not good though
<stilic>
kris_: I think there might be usecases but ppl acting like they literally need it like drugs is so bad omfg
<kris_>
as with everything there's levels to it
<kris_>
i ran my own here at home for a while just to pass things i write over to so it can look it over, id say a good 80% of what it pointed out was stuff i legitimately had overlooked
<stilic>
alr
<kris_>
other 20% was shit it just made up
<stilic>
I'm pretty anti-GenAI so far but I still think there might be usecases for llms
<midfavila>
kris_ stilic tbf i do track deps but it's just using tsort
<kris_>
i think letting it actually engineer stuff is stupid and dangerous, and obviously there's the environmental impact
<stilic>
like light code completion
<stilic>
midfavila: tsort?
<kris_>
i don't like code completion at all because i feel like it prevents me from getting "fully involved"
<midfavila>
posix utility that implements a topological sort
<kris_>
i'm not sure how to word this, if i'm not completely and entirely conscious of everything then it prevents me from flowing
<stilic>
kris_: yep, that's the breaking point for me as well
<midfavila>
well, i'm looking *into* using tsort
<stilic>
midfavila: it's standard IG?
<midfavila>
atm i just naively load everything listed in every package's 'depends' file into a single list, then reverse that
<midfavila>
yes it is
<kris_>
time to see if qbittorrent accepts RSA8096 for local https certs
<stilic>
midfavila: does it support multiple build stages for cases like "I need GCC from stage 1 to build GCC of stage 2"
<midfavila>
no
<midfavila>
that gets handled by the individual package's build script
<midfavila>
i'm pretty sure the only thing i have that needs a multi-stage build is gcc actually
<midfavila>
and i'm just using a modified version of kiss' build script for that
<midfavila>
the *ultimate* goal is to get rid of gcc and binutils entirely
<midfavila>
and also gnu make and linux
<kris_>
it does indeed support RSA8096
<kris_>
coolio
<stilic>
midfavila: cool
<stilic>
I think a multi-stage is needed since otherwise, you still depend on the host distro
<midfavila>
yah
<midfavila>
also kris_ i think i'm going to wait on the uni thing
<midfavila>
planning on starting january instead of rushing through everything to start in september
<kris_>
makes sense to me
<midfavila>
gives me time to make some money too
<midfavila>
damn i suddenly have an intense desire for soda
<midfavila>
kris_: have you ever done that thing where you mix club soda with like
<midfavila>
those uh
<midfavila>
"water flavourers"
<midfavila>
you know the little squeeze bottle thingies
<kris_>
i dont know what club soda is
<kris_>
but ive never put water flavoring into soda
<midfavila>
carbonated water
<kris_>
oh interesting
<kris_>
that's not a bad idea really
<midfavila>
it's not
<kris_>
actually that's kind of a banger idea
<midfavila>
much cheaper than zevia
<kris_>
the energy mixture garbage i buy is just water flavoring because it works and is cheap
<kris_>
ive been just putting it in normal water
<kris_>
it would be nice carbonated
<midfavila>
i'mjust thinking about like
<midfavila>
having carbonated lemonade
<midfavila>
or iced tea
<midfavila>
or like, pomegranate "juice"
<midfavila>
etc
<kris_>
stilic: where did you see that ariadne is working on her own? i know she threatened it but i wasn't sure she had actually decided to do it
<kris_>
midfavila: tea is always good
<kris_>
i drink a stupid amount of tea
<midfavila>
i think i drink at least 2-3L of tea a day
<kris_>
the kids have gotten me into it again
<kris_>
the one that fried my laptop drinks some sort of like chinese default tea
<kris_>
i forget what it's called, havent tried it yet
<midfavila>
i keep trying to drink coffee but most coffee is too like
<midfavila>
"intense"
<kris_>
i have some chamomile in the cabinet but i also have not tried that
<midfavila>
if that makes sense
<kris_>
i get it
<midfavila>
yeah
<midfavila>
like it has a lot of flavour but it's all very tip-of-the-tongue sort of thing
<kris_>
the coffee i used to get tasted identical to black tea
<kris_>
just higher caffeine content
<midfavila>
it just smacks you in the face and then that's it
<midfavila>
whereas tea is like, a more balanced flavour
<kris_>
you just need to find the right coffee
<midfavila>
nah this is just a coffee thing
<kris_>
i wish i could find what i got specifically that i kept buying, there's a specific place i got coffee beans from
<midfavila>
i mostly drink light and medium roasts and i've tried a few different types
<midfavila>
that said,
<kris_>
i got way too into it at one point, had a really nice grinder and an aeropress and shit
<midfavila>
i did try this brand of coffee from turkey recently
<midfavila>
and it's pretty good
<midfavila>
has cardamom and other spices mixed in
<kris_>
i dont drink coffee anymore though i would rather the flavor of most teas
<kris_>
and coffee isnt strong enough to actually do anything to me
<kris_>
especially given caffeine doesnt work for me
<kris_>
its the other shit in the stuff i drink that does
<midfavila>
actually
<midfavila>
dery: is "italian soda" an actual thing in italy
<midfavila>
i might try to replicate them using club soda
<midfavila>
okay no they're apparently an italian-american thing
<midfavila>
hrm
<midfavila>
the more you know
<kris_>
OH
<kris_>
HOLY SHIT
<midfavila>
nani
<kris_>
midfavila: i really wanted to tell you about this but couldnt because i got sent to the shadow realm but like
<kris_>
i got my website building entirely with emacs now, no hugo
<kris_>
using org -> html stuffs
<midfavila>
very cool
<kris_>
it looks very close to identical
<midfavila>
i need to rewrite my website in troff or something
<midfavila>
i would use werc but p9fus pisses me off
<kris_>
i havent pushed it to cloudflare yet because im not sure if i really want to use this but it works better than hugo does
<kris_>
i thought i replied to it but you may have been offline
<midfavila>
probably
<midfavila>
sdf has been experiencing a lot of blackouts lately
<kris_>
it looks kinda silly
<midfavila>
does it?
<kris_>
it also looks cheap to manufacture though so
<kris_>
FUCKING $4700??
<midfavila>
idk dude compared to a rinky dink little jetson or w/e those tiny e-bikes are this one would be more useful lol
<midfavila>
ugh the frame i want is like 1500 bucks after currency conversion...
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<dery>
midfavila: what in italian soda
<dery>
we got like "soda" which is water with... something
<dery>
it's also called "acqua tonica"... i think?
<dery>
nope it's not that
<kris_>
dery: no way hi
<dery>
hiiiiiii
<dery>
hyd krissss
<dery>
glad to see you back
<kris_>
im ok, and yeah im back until liberachat also blocks tor
<kris_>
how are you
<dery>
going forwards
<dery>
trying to remember i'm still human
<dery>
should socialize more
<kris_>
relatable
<kris_>
do you hang out with anyone irl
<dery>
rarely
<dery>
local LUG helps
<kris_>
you should ask some people there if they wanna hang out extra
<kris_>
like external to lug mettings
<kris_>
meetings
<dery>
that's a good idea
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<midfavila>
ugh
<midfavila>
i think i'm going to drop emacs
<midfavila>
i'm tired of having to either pin myself to an old version or constantly rewrite my config file
<kris_>
what would you move to
<gentoouser1337>
nano
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<midfavila>
honestly i don't know
<midfavila>
if i wasn't a total brainlet i would fix s9fes' editor
<midfavila>
but i don't fucking know anything about computers so i won't
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<Guest27>
Has anyone had any luck using dm-mod.create for using an encrypted root partition without an initramfs? I can't seem to make sense of the documentation at kernel.org.
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<Vova>
did Dylan came back here since he came back online?
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<dery>
Guest27: looking at the docs it looks like it only supports "raw" dm-crypt and expects the key passed as an arg, I think?
<dery>
I don't think it's usable as an alternative to a cryptsetup initramfs
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<midfavila>
Vova: a couple of times
<midfavila>
he's too busy growing au naturale wine or something though i bet