<sicelo>
it was happening when pressing the Recent button
<freemangordon>
yeah, I know
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<sicelo>
thanks, it's fixed now
<sicelo>
read a bit on the TRM regarding VRFB ... seems like a really nice feature indeed.
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<freemangordon>
sicelo: not that nice, really: you are limited to 12 (iirc) 'contexts' and alos, there is a latency, i.e. rotation comes with a cost
<freemangordon>
on omap4 TILER has no latency
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<uvos>
i wonder if android uses this on omap3 devices like droid 1
<uvos>
or if they just use sgx
<uvos>
arno11: i implemented your landscape sphone dialer myself, thank you for your pr regardless
<uvos>
freemangordon: 12 contexts sounds like plenty, you run out of tiler space pretty fast too.
<uvos>
so is it really mutch better in that regard
<freemangordon>
not really, as the number of tiler surfaces depends on their size
<sicelo>
ah i see. well i only looked at it casually/briefly.
<sicelo>
tbh, i think i'm more hungry for the DSP more than the rotation. no idea though how things works at that low level of stuff
<freemangordon>
forget about DSP
<freemangordon>
it would be a huge effort to support it properly
<sicelo>
i understand/agree. since i'm guessing that just bringing it up is only one part of the puzzle. have to get higher-level stuff to use it? e.g. i guess gst/PA would need some module to handover to it?
<freemangordon>
the support must be implemented through remoteproc
<freemangordon>
and remoteproc currently supports only ELF format, afaik
<freemangordon>
while we have codecs that are COFF
<freemangordon>
gst part is easy
<freemangordon>
all this does not make sense for a single device
<sicelo>
uvos: arno11: that sphone was built where? can't seem to get it via apt update && upgrade
<arno11>
me too, don't know why
<arno11>
seems ok from jenkins but can't find it
<arno11>
sicelo: btw with noatime, swap on separate partition, renice dbus-daemon and H-D, ogg ringtone, stock 250MHz min freq, calls with sphone are fast enough now
<sicelo>
found it ... it's in -devel, but for some reason you need to specify the version manually
<arno11>
ah ok, ty
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<arno11>
ah i see why it doesn't work: wrong versioning: 0.9.8+3m7 instead of 4m7
<sicelo>
arno11: nice to hear calls are ok on N900 now. i have switched to Droid 4 for the time being, but will return to N900 soonish, and continue with my plans for cmtspeech
<sicelo>
i have yet to try renicing dbus & HD, as well as adjusting freqs
<arno11>
ok (there are ok with ringtone but with mute trick or with sphone modif btw)
<sicelo>
i also would like to get to the point where mute trick is not needed, because it's easy to forget (at least for me)
<arno11>
yeah sure
<sicelo>
btw, i think with the PA + cmtspeech work i plan to do, i'll be in a better position to come up with a cmt_pw in future, once Leste moves to PipeWire :-)
<arno11>
cool :)
<sicelo>
so we can use true PW instead of needing someting like pipewire-pulse
<arno11>
uvos: landscape keypad works fine on my n900, ty
<sicelo>
e.g. Pinephone ... many people are dissatisfied with in in pmOS-land, for example, so maybe they can sell them for cheap (they were not expensive new anyway).
<sicelo>
they should be pretty snappy with Leste.
<ladsalt>
good idea but my phone is pretty new id think id wait for it to die before getting a new phone
<sicelo>
or if you're willing to put in some work Leste-side, get the Oneplus 6/6T and start the Leste port
<ladsalt>
NO FUCKING WAY
<ladsalt>
I HAVE A 6T
<ladsalt>
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO ASK
<ladsalt>
oh also the ouya can theoritcaly run leste
<ladsalt>
it has mainline
<ladsalt>
i forgot why i was here sorry
<ladsalt>
but it was too see if the motorola flipout could run it
<ladsalt>
which seems to be a no
<sicelo>
no idea,
<ladsalt>
it doesnt support mainline so i dont think so
<sicelo>
but Oneplus 6T has very good mainline support and is currently one of the most powerful phones pmos-side
<sicelo>
so Leste-side it'll literally fly :-D
<ladsalt>
so how easy will it be to get it too run?
<sicelo>
start the port... and you might be able to draw more folks to Leste
<ladsalt>
hmm
<sicelo>
because some folk don't want to run Leste since it is perceived to focus only on aged devices (droid 4, n900)
<ladsalt>
i do know a bit of C++ but no idea if i could do that
<sicelo>
for the port, first step would be to figure out how to boot ... pmOS docs will help with that part
<ladsalt>
wait but question
<ladsalt>
why doesnt it work already
<ladsalt>
doesnt it have mainline support?
<ladsalt>
sorry if this is a dumb question
<sicelo>
then, you need a kernel. pmOS already has kernels for them. mobian might have it too, can't recall. if Mobian does, even better/easier, since they're dpkg like us, so you can nearly reuse the packaging as i
<sicelo>
then, you need a rootfs .. you should be able to get started with either Pinephone's rootfs or generic arm64
<ladsalt>
i am sorry but i am too smoothed brain to do all of that
<sicelo>
< ladsalt> doesnt it have mainline support? ... "mainline" means the mainline kernel runs on it. booting mechanisms are unrelated to kernel
<ladsalt>
ok
<ladsalt>
wait i have an idea
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<ladsalt>
if someone could basically turn leste into a deb package then it could be installed any debian supported device theoritcally
<ladsalt>
including the 6T
<sicelo>
no ... you are misunderstanding this
<sicelo>
leste is not 'one' program/application
<ladsalt>
well yes
<ladsalt>
but there are things like kde
<ladsalt>
which effetively make it another distro with how many more apps it installs
<sicelo>
no, not like kde either. let me explain
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<sicelo>
it's a combination of different packages that need/depend on each other. together, they make up a distro, which is what Leste is
<ladsalt>
sorry need to go for awhile
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<sicelo>
i.e. do not think of Leste as just Hildon (although Hildon is central to Leste, of cours)
<sicelo>
in that example, KDE --> Hildon
<sicelo>
but KDE needs to run on top of an OS/distro, e.g. Debian. In this case, the OS/distro is Leste
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<ladsalt>
back
<ladsalt>
also im going to be honest im too smoothed brain to port anything let alone an operating system
<ladsalt>
the best i could do is use limbo with kvm
<ladsalt>
and call it a day
<sicelo>
i understand. it might not be as hard as you think though, depending
<ladsalt>
the leste team will do it eventually if not somebody smarter then im sure
<ladsalt>
then me*
<ladsalt>
but if it comes out ill almost certianly get it
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<ladsalt>
i mean ive installed bootloaders onto like buildroot
<ladsalt>
hmm
<ladsalt>
maybe there is one way i can help
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<arno11>
uvos: @sphone upgrade: however contacts btn doesn't work anymore and show 'no contacts gui available'
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<arno11>
ah maybe because of rtcom stuff, no ?
<arno11>
recent (calls) btn is ok now btw
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<arno11>
Failed to load module /usr/lib/sphone/modules/libcontacts-evolution.so: libebook-1.2.so.20: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory; skipping
<arno11>
but calling from contacts app still work
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<uvos>
arno11: this suggests you dont have libebook installed
<uvos>
which is wierd
<Wizzup>
In the past sphone depended on the wrong version
<Wizzup>
maybe check this isn't the case again
<uvos>
arno11: is this daedalus or chimaera?
<uvos>
since i built both
<uvos>
Wizzup: well sphone dosent depend on libebook at all its recommends
<uvos>
since the module built at least libebook-1.2 must have been available at compiletime
<uvos>
what would make it "wrong"?
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<uvos>
arno11: i dont have access to the device atm, could you check if you have any libebook version installed
<uvos>
and if so what version
<uvos>
also libcontacts-evolution dosent provide the contacts ui
<uvos>
so you have 2 unrelated issues
<uvos>
(the ui also dosent need libcontacts-evolution to load)
<arno11>
back
<arno11>
uvos maybe that's because of the wrong sphone versioning
<arno11>
daedalus
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<arno11>
will check libebook
<uvos>
also check why libcontacts-ui-abook wont load for you
<uvos>
the log should say
<arno11>
that' weird, never had an issue like this before with sphone btw
<arno11>
nothing in log apart the msg i provided
<arno11>
no issue with libebook, got the right pkgs
<arno11>
will reinstall my local build and see
<uvos>
could you post the result of "find /usr/lib -name "libebook*""
<uvos>
also the sphone verbose log "sphone -v -v" pasted somewhere would help
<uvos>
well i dont know how ld could fail to find libebook-1.2.so.20 if its there as you say
<arno11>
hmm in fact they are not in /usr/lib/sphone...
<uvos>
they dont need to be
<uvos>
libebook-1.2.so.20 just has be somewhere in ld's search path
<uvos>
that includes places like /usr/lib etc
<arno11>
ok but
<arno11>
Failed to load module /usr/lib/sphone/modules/libcontacts-ui-abook.so: libebook-1.2.so.20: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
<sicelo>
.20 is wrong... not in daedalus
<uvos>
not sure how it could possibly have ended up building against a version of a lib not in daedalus unless ci is broken and installed packages from an older distro
<arno11>
again, sphone versioning is wrong for daedalus
<sicelo>
should be .21. I can't figure out how sphone versioning and building works .. e.g. there's no tag for 0.9.8
<sicelo>
either way, arno is right
<arno11>
maybe that's the root cause
<uvos>
debian/control dosent specify the version
<uvos>
ci just installes whatever is in the repo at the time of compile
<uvos>
the version of sphones code dosent matter
<uvos>
since again it dosent specify the version of libebook at all beyond 1.2
<uvos>
the only way this could have happend is if somehow ci installed the older version so it is what was available at compile time
<uvos>
since i triggered both daedalus-devel and chimaera-devel
<arno11>
FYI, my local sphone 0.9.7 still works fine
<uvos>
i presume that somehow the version build for chimaera ended up in the deadlus repo somehow
<sicelo>
maybe the one we ended up with is chimaera devel version then
<uvos>
yes the only way this can happen is a bug in ci
<uvos>
ill just trigger the daedalus build again
<uvos>
but Wizzup should look into that
<arno11>
on my daedalus, last sphone is 3m7 instead of 4m7
<Wizzup>
ah, yes, don't build them in parallel.
<sicelo>
bug you do need to tag correctly as well. ateast the builder docs say so
<sicelo>
*but
<Wizzup>
and yes tagging is important too
<uvos>
in practice if you forget the tag and dosent find the version it just builds HEAD
<uvos>
so sure yeah it should be tagged but that has never mattered
<uvos>
in practice
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<saeed>
hello.
<sicelo>
saeed: hi. do you need any assistance?
<saeed>
no, thank you. :D
<saeed>
i just keep sending hellos here to remaind myself i need to push sunxi kernel.
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<inky>
sunxi? for pinephone?
<saeed>
for a23
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<sicelo>
uvos: Wizzup: unless something's wrong with my Droid 4, sometimes the screen doesn't blank and lock during calls. but iio-sp seems to be working correctly/normally
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<arno11>
uvos: sphone 0.9.8+4m7 is ok now, but still needs to be installed manually (still can't find it through update && upgrade)
<arno11>
*manually, i mean apt install sphone=0.9.8+4m7
<arno11>
otherwise that's still 0.9.7 by default
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