05:57 <freemangordon> Wizzup: help: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3711#section-9.5

05:57 <freemangordon> https://github.com/cisco/libsrtp/pull/757#issuecomment-2923383677

05:58 <freemangordon> do I read the RFC right, like, it allows null auth but discourages it?

09:15 <Wizzup> reading

09:17 <freemangordon> thanks

09:18 <Wizzup> I mean from a glance it seems like yes, they do carve out some reasons to use NULL autentication

09:18 <Wizzup> but SRTCP is not the same as SRTP

09:19 <Wizzup> it does say: SRTCP MUST NOT be used with weak (or NULL) authentication.

09:19 <Wizzup> but then carves out exceptions for SRTP (not SRTCP)

10:37 <arno11> freemangordon: btw i got sip working both ways with sphone and without last vcm changes

10:38 <arno11> modifying /usr/share/farstream/0.2/fsrtpconference/default-element-properties

10:39 <arno11> adding buffer-time=200000 and latency-time=40000 in [pulsesrc]

10:40 <arno11> outgoing sound is crappy but 100% it is my home network. will try with hspa later

10:40 <arno11> *100% sure

10:42 <arno11> (ofc those values are probably incorrect but it makes things kind of working)

10:43 <arno11> i've tested with tcp between leste n900 (ippi) and android (linphone)

10:47 <arno11> i think i made some changes in FS properties with chimaera to make sip working with sphone too. i need to check in my chimaera sd

10:47 <dsc_> arno11: fyi some conversations updates since last few days

10:47 <arno11> ah ok cool will try a bit later

10:50 <freemangordon> Wizzup: srtcp is 'control channel', right?

10:53 <Wizzup> >SRTP has a sister protocol, called Secure RTCP (SRTCP); it securely provides the same functions to SRTP as the ones provided by RTCP to RTP.

10:54 <Wizzup> (according to wikipedia, I didn't know until just now)

10:54 <Wizzup> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Real-time_Transport_Protocol

10:54 <Wizzup> Utilization of SRTP or SRTCP is optional in RTP or RTCP applications; but even if SRTP or SRTCP are used, all provided features (such as encryption and authentication) are optional and can be separately enabled or disabled. The only exception is the message authentication feature which is indispensable and required when using SRTCP.

11:00 <freemangordon> ok, so there is no point in arguing then

11:01 <freemangordon> and we'll have to fix farstream

11:47 <freemangordon> Wizzup: https://github.com/cisco/libsrtp/pull/757#issuecomment-2925034536

11:47 <freemangordon> anything to add/change?

11:49 <freemangordon> arno, so, with this changes every sip call has audion?

11:49 <freemangordon> *audio

12:01 <arno11> it seems, but i need to do further test

12:02 <arno11> i'll let you know

12:35 <arno11__> freemangordon: incoming sip calls (in leste) work on both wifi and hspa. outgoing doesn't

12:36 <arno11__> and vcm/sphone crash

12:37 <arno11__> (but still without last vcm changes)

14:20 <freemangordon> arno11: does it work with libsrtp2 from debian repository (without my patch)?

14:46 <arno11> freemangordon: idk, i use your patch

14:46 <arno11> will try later

14:47 <freemangordon> could you also try latest vcm

14:48 <freemangordon> with this patch https://git.maemo.org/leste-upstream-forks/voicecall/commit/46564af0cdb5b6de1305e678166397f8789b20ec

14:48 <arno11> yes, could you plz build it in devel or experimental ? (to make things easier from my device)

14:49 <freemangordon> ok, will do

14:49 <arno11> cool ty

15:03 <freemangordon> arno11: building for the main repo, shoudl be rady in few minutes

15:03 <freemangordon> *ready

15:04 <arno11> yep i see it in jenkins

15:11 <arno11> installing

15:14 <arno11> reboot

15:15 <freemangordon> bbl

17:16 <dsc_> Wizzup: requesting access to jib @ git

17:33 <Wizzup> dsc_: will do

17:34 <Wizzup> we need a few more forgejo admins maybe

17:34 <Wizzup> done

19:44 <Wizzup> with n900 swap working and pinephone image, do we have any daedalus blockers?

20:03 <Wizzup> uvos: any guess whether the droid 4 modem will work (unlocked) in canada?

20:03 <Wizzup> or do you think it'll be similar to the US?

20:07 <uvos> works in canada

20:11 <Wizzup> uvos: t

20:11 <Wizzup> ty

20:11 <Wizzup> freemangordon: so I think tinymail uses uint32's where it should be uint64

20:11 <Wizzup> this is why it doesn't work with my email server

20:15 <ladsalt> hello

20:19 <Wizzup> freemangordon: but maybe I get this wrong, trying to figure it out

20:25 <Wizzup> freemangordon: ok nvm that was a cache issue it seems

20:33 <Wizzup> freemangordon: ok, yeah, it was really just the SUBSCRIBE INBOX that made it unhappy

20:36 <Wizzup> cool :)

20:41 <Wizzup> nope, seems more work is required still

20:52 <Wizzup> freemangordon: ha yeah they use int not uint

20:52 <Wizzup> lol

20:54 <uvos> Wizzup: actually looks like d4 wont work in canada, or not very long at all anymore

20:54 <uvos> https://www.rogers.com/support/mobility/3g-network-retirement-everything-you-need-to-know?ecid=EM_R_WIR__JOR_AWR_I1K9NH

20:54 <uvos> looks like they are shuting down 3g in 2 months

20:54 <uvos> and 2g is gone already

20:55 <uvos> unrelated to the modem ofc

21:03 <Wizzup> ok

21:03 <Wizzup> I have someone who is interested in helping and was asking for n900 or droid 4

21:04 <uvos> ok, effectively neither modem will work at this point

21:05 <uvos> which is a shame

21:12 <Wizzup> yup

22:07 <Wizzup> freemangordon: https://git.maemo.org/leste/tinymail/pulls/1

22:07 <Wizzup> I'm probably going to go ahead and merge this to master so that I can build it for daedalus-devel, but this finally makes my email work again

22:08 <Wizzup> but we can do any reverts as necessary

22:49 <Wizzup> freemangordon: what lib/program do we use to identify the device?

23:54 <Wizzup> freemangordon: it's possible the subscribe folder solution maybe interferes with subfolders? will investigate later