05:52 <abu[7]> d7

07:14 <drawnto> In the pilBox shell, what determines what Java stuff is in scope to access? Is there a way to "import" new things into scope?

07:14 <drawnto> by scope i mean accessible using java calls

07:24 <drawnto> I know that https://picolisp.com/wiki/?javaiterop is entirely unrelated to pilBox but that it has a javaImport function got me thinking.

08:13 <abu[7]> drawnto: You mean the Java objects?

08:15 <drawnto> I was more thinking of classes and modules.

08:15 <abu[7]> They are accessed and fetched as Pil external symbols whenever their value or properties are needed

08:16 <drawnto> Does that mean pil by default has access to all of them?

08:16 <abu[7]> yes

08:17 <drawnto> I didn't get the impression that that was the case but that was also before i got more confident around the $ sign.

08:17 <abu[7]> Technically they are a database

08:27 <drawnto> Is there a way to remote access the picolisp shell running on an app?

08:28 <abu[7]> You can run the REPL from your PC

08:29 <abu[7]> The easiest is the 'pty' utility in the Pil release

08:29 <abu[7]> Or Telnet, but needs more setup

08:32 <abu[7]> It is described in detail in Mia's blog

08:33 <abu[7]> https://picolisp-explored.com/mobile-app-development-in-picolisp-v-getting-a-remote-shell-to-your-pc

10:58 <drawnto> How would i create an java array of Strings?

11:01 <abu[7]> Should be simply a list of strings

11:08 <drawnto> I see.

12:24 <drawnto> What is the n for in    (java "cls" ['n] 'msg ['any ..]) -> any  Call method in class

12:24 <drawnto> and    (java 'obj ['n] 'msg ['any ..]) -> any   Send message to object

12:27 <abu[7]> If a number is give there, it causes the creation of a Thread

12:28 <abu[7]> Typically in combination with 'runOnUiThread'

12:28 <abu[7]> (java (; CONTEXT GUI) 'runOnUiThread (java (; CONTEXT GUI PilView) 0 'loadUrl (pass pack)))

12:29 <abu[7]> If 'n' is zero, no return value is expected

12:29 <abu[7]> If positive, a return value

12:30 <abu[7]> If negative, the Thread persists in a loop

12:31 <abu[7]> (java (java @ -1 'accept) 'start)

12:31 <drawnto> this goes over my head but i will try a 0 there and see if it helps

12:31 <abu[7]> OK

12:32 <abu[7]> Only -1, 0 and 1 make sense

12:33 <abu[7]> Example for a result:

12:33 <abu[7]> (java (; CONTEXT GUI) 'runOnUiThread (java (; CONTEXT GUI PilView) 1 'getUrl))

13:04 <drawnto> in the repl (java (; CONTEXT GUI) 'runOnUiThread (java (; CONTEXT GUI PilView) 1 'getUrl)) gives NIL

13:08 <abu[7]> Yes, this is not complete

13:09 <abu[7]> The Thread is started

13:09 <abu[7]> http://pb1n.de/?e19a8b

13:15 <abu[7]> Wait, the callback makes no sense out of context.

13:15 <abu[7]> Better http://pb1n.de/?7978c4

14:09 <abu[7]> What I said above "Only -1, 0 and 1 make sense" is not correct. Other numbers can be used if the same method name is used in different places. They are keys.

18:46 <Guest46> Can any one explain how to solve the SEND + MORE = MONEY problem using pilog, thank you.