f_ changed the topic of #wayback to: Wayback - a wayland-based X11 environment | https://wayback.freedesktop.org/ | preview release 0.2 is out! https://wayback.freedesktop.org/news/2025/07/31/wayback-0.2-released/ | src: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayback/wayback | logs: https://libera.catirclogs.org/wayback | matrix bridge: #wayback:catircservices.org
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<Ariadne> hi, i will be in austria next week at XDC. if there is anything i should be asking X/wayland devs for, now would be a good time to bring it up :P
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<ConanKudo[m]1> a pathway to bridging rootful Xwayland to wayland outputs
<ConanKudo[m]1> that's pretty much the only thing left we don't have
<Ariadne> that one i am aware of :)
<Ariadne> are you still planning to also be there?
<ConanKudo[m]1> alas no
<Ariadne> ack :)
<Ariadne> i guess the other major thing left to do is piping wayland apps into X
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<dramforever[m]> https://sourceforge.net/projects/twelveto11/ exists but i didn't figure out how to build it last time i tried
<ConanKudo[m]1> Ariadne: I don't really consider that a goal, but ehh
<dramforever[m]> wait this might not be the updated one
<ConanKudo[m]1> making wayland apps "work" on X11 is going to be painful as applications can rely on facilities that can't exist on X11
<dramforever[m]> https://git.linuxping.win/12to11/12to11 this might be newer?
<Ariadne> someone made a wayland compositor that runs in a terminal and uses ascii art. X is certainly more capable than that
<dramforever[m]> i think it would be more of a problem when gtk N removes x11 support
<dramforever[m]> otherwise it would be supporting... waydroid? and not much else afaik
<Ariadne> ConanKudo[m]1: i think we still need DPMS stuff too
<ConanKudo[m]1> yes, that's wrapped in output stuff
<Ariadne> ack
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<f_> Ariadne: Yeah, pretty much mostly Xwayland output piping and DPMS things
<f_> other things like mouse wrapping should be easy to fix
<f_> hmm.. but we also need to pipe inputs properly.. right now all X11 DEs see are virtual "xwayland" mouse&keyboard
<f_> and yes I also don't really consider piping wayland apps into X to be a goal .. but it can be considered
<f_> fossdd: can I take over !81 ?
<Wayback> !81 README: Point to Alpine's `community` package (https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayback/wayback/-/merge_requests/81) [opened]
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<f_|cat> @achill:postmarketos.org ^
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<Achill[m]> Yes sure sure thanks!
<f_> yw!
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