f_ changed the topic of #wayback to: Wayback - a wayland-based X11 environment | https://wayback.freedesktop.org/ | preview release 0.2 is out! https://wayback.freedesktop.org/news/2025/07/31/wayback-0.2-released/ | src: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayback/wayback | logs: https://libera.catirclogs.org/wayback | matrix bridge: #wayback:catircservices.org
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<yshui> would Xwayland need to implement xrandr drm leasing on top of Wayland drm leasing?
<ConanKudo[m]1> what would we do with drm leasing?
<Ariadne> for context: it was suggested that xwayland get drm leasing for direct rendering
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<f_> ugh I missed it :(
<f_> Are recordings available yet?
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<ivyl> today's recording will be available tomorrow ~noonish UTC at https://video.tuwien.ac.at/events/xdc
<ivyl> it takes a while for the university infra to process it
<ivyl> separate talk uploads will take a bit longer
<f_> ivyl: cool, thank you!
<f_> I'll wait then :)
<Ariadne> i was talking with emersion and he got me thinking: why do we need xwayland to provide the root window? why not provide it ourselves
<Ariadne> i’m going to prototype this, but it might solve the display topology issue
<f_|cat> sounds good!
<handlerug> so you’re going to run xwayland rootless?
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<f_> But we would still need *some* plumbing for display management
<f_> At least for actually managing monitors and whatnot
<dramforever[m]> still rootful definitely, but maybe more like a "become the xwayland"
<ConanKudo[m]1> <Ariadne> i was talking with emersion and he got me thinking: why do we need xwayland to provide the root window? why not provide it ourselves
<ConanKudo[m]1> that makes sense... my Xweston prototype worked that way
<ConanKudo[m]1> the issue is that rootless Xwayland makes xrandr read-only
<ConanKudo[m]1> for Xweston that's annoying because there's no runtime interface for output topology
<ConanKudo[m]1> but we could hook up wlr-output-management or our own thing
<f_> ConanKudo[m]1: I think "fixing" that could work
<f_> oh yeah you said it
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