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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20423 opened: avformat/whip: fix SDP ICE candidates parsing (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20423) by J⁠ackLau
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20407 FFMPEG8: FFmpeg choked on foundations like 'udpcandidate' (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20407#issuecomment-5582) by J⁠ackLau
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<BtbN> kasper93: I think I fixed the weird crash. By manually LoadLibrary'ing graphicscapture.dll, and doing nothing with it except freeing it at the end.
<BtbN> Letting RoUninitialize unload it is what's crashing
<BtbN> super weird
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20424 opened: avcodec/vaapi_encode: skip AVBR if HRD parameters are set (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20424) by c⁠gutman
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20425 opened: avutil/hwcontext_drm: fix mapping when dst format is unset (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20425) by c⁠gutman
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20366 closed: libavformat/vorbiscomment.c:rm warning ‘%03d’ directive output may be truncated (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20366) by c⁠aifan
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20366 reopened: libavformat/vorbiscomment.c:rm warning ‘%03d’ directive output may be truncated (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20366) by c⁠aifan
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20426 opened: WIP: libavcodec/riscv: add RVV optimized idct_32x32_8 and idct_16x16_8 for HEVC (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20426) by C⁠heryDan
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20425 merged: avutil/hwcontext_drm: fix mapping when dst format is unset (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20425) by L⁠ynne
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20414 avcodec/codec_par: remove alpha_mode (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20414#issuecomment-5603) by L⁠ynne
<Lynne> jkqxz: ping on #20367
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20427 opened: Fix: change integer (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20427) by J⁠amaika1
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20427 Fix: change integer (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20427#issuecomment-5608) by J⁠amaika1
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20410 closed: Double include removed (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20410) by J⁠amaika1
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20408 closed: Fix: change integer %zu (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20408) by J⁠amaika1
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20427 closed: Fix: change integer (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20427) by J⁠amaika1
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20428 opened: Fix: undefined reference to `ff_lavf_cbs_type_av1' (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20428) by J⁠amaika1
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20429 opened: Fix: change integer (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20429) by J⁠amaika1
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20407 FFMPEG8: FFmpeg choked on foundations like 'udpcandidate' (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20407#issuecomment-5622) by n⁠eilyoung
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20423 avformat/whip: fix SDP ICE candidates parsing (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20423#issuecomment-5623) by n⁠eilyoung
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20359 Bink Audio 2 decoder and demuxer (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20359#issuecomment-5625) by p⁠ross
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20405 avformat/whip: add PRIORITY and ICE_CONTROLLING for STUN binding request (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20405#issuecomment-5627) by J⁠ackLau
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20405 avformat/whip: add PRIORITY and ICE_CONTROLLING for STUN binding request (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20405#issuecomment-5628) by J⁠ackLau
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20405 avformat/whip: add PRIORITY and ICE_CONTROLLING for STUN binding request (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20405#issuecomment-5629) by n⁠eilyoung
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20366 closed: libavformat/vorbiscomment.c:rm warning ‘%03d’ directive output may be truncated (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20366) by c⁠aifan
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20404 avcodec/cbrt_tablegen: Avoid static array used only once (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20404#issuecomment-5632) by m⁠kver
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20404 closed: avcodec/cbrt_tablegen: Avoid static array used only once (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20404) by m⁠kver
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20239 fix-heaac-probe (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20239#issuecomment-5635) by n⁠gaullier
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20239 closed: fix-heaac-probe (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20239) by n⁠gaullier
<JEEB> fun old mpegaudio decoding result https://hydrogenaudio.org/index.php/topic,128365
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20430 opened: libavcodec/v4l2_buffers.c:warning: "USEC_PER_SEC" redefined (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20430) by c⁠aifan
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20430 libavcodec/v4l2_buffers.c:warning: "USEC_PER_SEC" redefined (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20430#issuecomment-5646) by q⁠uink
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20430 libavcodec/v4l2_buffers.c:warning: "USEC_PER_SEC" redefined (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20430#issuecomment-5648) by c⁠aifan
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20431 opened: avcodec/mpegaudiodec_template: Don't modify AVCodecContext.priv_data (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20431) by m⁠kver
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20420 .NET Bindings Crash (MS_VC_EXCEPTION / 0x406d1388) (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20420#issuecomment-5654) by S⁠uRGeoNix
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20389 merged: lavc/librsvgdec: Fix compilation with librsvg 2.50.3. (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20389) by T⁠raneptora
<fflogger> [editedticket] thebombzen: Ticket #10722 ([avcodec] Build failure with librsvg older than 2.52) updated https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/10722#comment:1
<fflogger> [editedticket] Leo Izen <leo.izen@gmail.com>: Ticket #10722 ([avcodec] Build failure with librsvg older than 2.52) updated https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/10722#comment:3
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20430 libavcodec/v4l2_buffers.c:37: fix warning: avoid redefinition of "USEC_PER_SEC" (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20430#issuecomment-5659) by c⁠aifan
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20273 avcodec/d3d12va_encode: texture array support for HEVC (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20273#issuecomment-5661) by J⁠amaika1
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20432 opened: swscale/ops: Fix linking with x86 assembly disabled (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20432) by m⁠kver
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20433 opened: libavformat/vorbiscomment.c:fix warning:‘%03d’directive output may be truncated (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20433) by c⁠aifan
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20434 opened: avformat/mov: Remove unused variable (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20434) by m⁠kver
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20428 Fix: undefined reference to `ff_lavf_cbs_type_av1' (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20428#issuecomment-5677) by j⁠amrial
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20434 avformat/mov: Remove unused variable (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20434#issuecomment-5679) by q⁠uink
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20434 closed: avformat/mov: Remove unused variable (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20434) by m⁠kver
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20428 Fix: undefined reference to `ff_lavf_cbs_type_av1' (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20428#issuecomment-5684) by J⁠amaika1
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20428 Fix: undefined reference to `ff_lavf_cbs_type_av1' (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20428#issuecomment-5685) by j⁠amrial
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20428 closed: Fix: undefined reference to `ff_lavf_cbs_type_av1' (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20428) by j⁠amrial
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20428 Fix: undefined reference to `ff_lavf_cbs_type_av1' (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20428#issuecomment-5687) by J⁠amaika1
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20435 opened: WIP:Fix function file_open,file_read,file_write,file_close,file_seek conflict with Nuttx (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20435) by c⁠aifan
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20436 opened: avcodec/pcm_tablegen: Fix hardcoded-tables if alaw,mulaw,vidc codecs disabled (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20436) by m⁠kver
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20346 Crash when playing ogg file (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20346#issuecomment-5697) by m⁠kver
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20437 opened: avutil/hwcontext_d3d12va: added resource and heap flags to DeviceContext (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20437) by j⁠ianhuaw
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20422 merged: avcodec/mjpegdec: ignore APPx stubs unless AV_EF_EXPLODE is set (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20422) by r⁠amiro
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20435 Fix function file_open,file_read,file_write,file_close,file_seek conflict with Nuttx (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20435#issuecomment-5706) by B⁠tbN
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20430 libavcodec/v4l2_buffers.c:37: fix warning: avoid redefinition of "USEC_PER_SEC" (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20430#issuecomment-5709) by q⁠uink
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20430 libavcodec/v4l2_buffers.c:37: fix warning: avoid redefinition of "USEC_PER_SEC" (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20430#issuecomment-5710) by q⁠uink
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20438 opened: vf_colorspace: Add an option to clamp trc LUT output (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20438) by d⁠octor3w
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<BtbN> well, I just had to touch almost every part of the build system to make it able to a) compile and b) link C++
<BtbN> seems like it wasn't done in a while
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Issue #20439 opened: Edit list atom modified during conversion from MOV to MP4 (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20439) by f⁠nordware
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20440 opened: Fix alpha_modes deprecation warning in ffplay (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20440) by h⁠aasn
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20439 Edit list atom modified during conversion from MOV to MP4 (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20439#issuecomment-5724) by q⁠uink
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Issue #20439 closed: Edit list atom modified during conversion from MOV to MP4 (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20439) by q⁠uink
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20439 Edit list atom modified during conversion from MOV to MP4 (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20439#issuecomment-5727) by f⁠nordware
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20439 Edit list atom modified during conversion from MOV to MP4 (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20439#issuecomment-5728) by f⁠nordware
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20439 Edit list atom modified during conversion from MOV to MP4 (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20439#issuecomment-5729) by f⁠nordware
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20439 Edit list atom modified during conversion from MOV to MP4 (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20439#issuecomment-5730) by q⁠uink
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20438 vf_colorspace: Add an option to clamp trc LUT output (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20438#issuecomment-5731) by d⁠octor3w
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<ePirat> BtbN, why that?
<BtbN> Why what?
<BtbN> Why I'm using C++, or why I had to fixup the build system?
<ePirat> the latter
<BtbN> Well, it for some reason passes CFLAGS to it
<BtbN> which makes it rather unhappy to receive -std=c17 on its commandline
<ePirat> Ah yes the build system has no concept of those separately
<BtbN> It does
<BtbN> it has CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS and CPPFLAGS (and OBJCFLAGS)
<BtbN> for some reason it just put virtually everything into CFLAGS
<ePirat> thats what I meant
<BtbN> and someone decided just passing CFLAGS to g++ is easier
<ePirat> while it technically has, it was neglected forever
<BtbN> so I had to untangle all the flags and separate them properly
<ePirat> also it is rather inconsistent with naming
<BtbN> And some of the -W flags it sets are also unsupported by C++
<ePirat> some things about c++ are named _cxx and some _cpp
<ePirat> which is really confusing
<BtbN> It does seem to be consistent there
<BtbN> CPP stands for the C Pre-Processor
<BtbN> not C++
<ePirat> not when I checked last time
<BtbN> And the CPPFLAGS receive defines and stuff like that
<BtbN> it seems to be doing that correctly
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<BtbN> For linking I had to modify the Makefiles to link with CXX when -lstdc++ is on the linker commandline, and drop the flag from it
<BtbN> Cause I'm testing with clang, and clang does not use -lstdc++
<BtbN> But configure (and various .pc files) are filled with -lstdc++
<BtbN> so I kinda just use it as a flag for "If this is on the linker commandline, drop it and link with CXX"
<BtbN> But only if LD == CC
<ePirat> there is at least check_class_headers_cpp which IMHO is confusingly named as it is about C++, not about the preprocessor
<ePirat> same for check_lib_cpp
<BtbN> Oh, I didn't even notice those
<ePirat> and require_cpp
<BtbN> Hm, actually
<BtbN> I don't think those are C++
<BtbN> libx264 check uses them to check a pre-compiler condition
<ePirat> yes they are
<ePirat> they invoke the cxx linker
<BtbN> All of those seem to exclusively exist for libtoch, hm
<ePirat> they are useful to have but imho should be named _cxx
<BtbN> yeah
<BtbN> require_cpp being for C++ and require_cpp_condition for a pre-compiler-condition is horrible
<ePirat> also is there a reason we dont have any comments for these things explainign what they do and what arguments they take?
<BtbN> "self documenting"
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20439 Edit list atom modified during conversion from MOV to MP4 (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20439#issuecomment-5732) by j⁠amrial
<ePirat> BtbN, looks like it, yeah
<BtbN> might as well bring that along with all the other changes in that set
<BtbN> gfxcapture also isn't crashing anymore though the fix makes no sense
<JEEB> \o/
<BtbN> it seems to be internally freeing stuff in the wrong order
<BtbN> and due to me runtime-loading every DLL involved, that explodes
<JEEB> :D
<BtbN> normally, when you link those DLLs directly, they get pulled in, and are never freed
<BtbN> so the fix is to just also dlopen a few extra DLLs, and do nothing with them except freeing them again in the end
<ePirat> BtbN, thanks for cleaning those up
<BtbN> The gfxcapture filter is also potentially one of the most "complex" ones so far
<BtbN> since everything has to happen on its own thread
<BtbN> so there is a ton of synchronization. Quite handy to have C++ available for that. It does make that a lot less painful
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<BtbN> The most annoying thing with C++ is how it barfs hundreds of lines of errors at you for trivial typos
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20438 vf_colorspace: Add an option to clamp trc LUT output (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20438#issuecomment-5734) by h⁠aasn
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20438 vf_colorspace: Add an option to clamp trc LUT output (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20438#issuecomment-5736) by h⁠aasn
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20441 opened: avfilter/Makefile: Add dependencies for premultiply_dynamic filter (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20441) by m⁠kver
<BtbN> What would be a sensible thing to do for a source filter like that when the window size changes? I don't think we have any capture source that has that problem yet, do we?
<BtbN> I don't think suddenly changing the output resolution would go well with anything
<BtbN> specially not given it's hwframes
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20439 Edit list atom modified during conversion from MOV to MP4 (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20439#issuecomment-5745) by f⁠nordware
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20442 opened: Replace uxtl with umull in dmvr_hv_8 (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20442) by w⁠elder
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20432 swscale/ops: Fix linking with x86 assembly disabled (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20432#issuecomment-5754) by m⁠kver
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20432 closed: swscale/ops: Fix linking with x86 assembly disabled (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20432) by m⁠kver
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20336 Palettegen always produces wrong colors (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20336#issuecomment-5757) by M⁠asterInQuestion
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20343 `-sws_dither none` corrupts output. (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20343#issuecomment-5759) by M⁠asterInQuestion
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20406 Artifacting when scaling pal8 PNG (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20406#issuecomment-5760) by M⁠asterInQuestion
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on issue #20259 [hwaccel] Non threadsafe hwaccels performance regression when using single thread. (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/issues/20259#issuecomment-5762) by B⁠alling
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<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] Pull request #20388 merged: Generalize acrossfade filter to support multiple inputs (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20388) by h⁠aasn
<fflogger> [editedticket] MasterQuestionable: Ticket #11240 ([tools] [Windows] Non-ASCII characters in "FFREPORT" may produce garbled filename or fail) updated https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/11240#comment:15
<fjlogger> [FFmpeg/FFmpeg] New comment on pull request #20438 vf_colorspace: Add an option to clamp trc LUT output (https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20438#issuecomment-5767) by r⁠bultje