01:12 <cruxbot> [contrib/3.8]: tint2: fix build with gcc 14

01:56 <cruxbot> [contrib/3.8]: python3-beautifulsoup4: 4.13.2 -> 4.13.4

01:56 <cruxbot> [contrib/3.8]: python3-soupsieve: 2.6 -> 2.7

06:12 <ppetrov^> oho! 3.8 is out! great

08:54 <cruxbridge> <js> Congrats on getting 3.8 done 🙂

11:14 <uwumeowmeownyaa> Yay, the Crux GNU/Linux distribution version 3.8 has been released :-D

11:14 <uwumeowmeownyaa> I am so happy!

11:15 <uwumeowmeownyaa> What's new, though? Was package manager fixed?

11:16 <farkuhar> uwumeowmeownyaa: https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=12428

11:16 <pitillo> package manager?

11:18 <farkuhar> pitillo: there is this issue with pkgadd, https://git.crux.nu/tools/pkgutils/issues/4 , but at least one user FeodorPetrov disagrees that the claimed bug actually exists.

11:21 <farkuhar> According to https://git.crux.nu/tools/pkgutils/issues/4#issuecomment-460 , I shouldn't find any entries in /var/lib/pkg/db matching 'usr/lib/.*\.la' if I write a pkgadd.conf rule "INSTALL ^usr/lib/.*\.la$ NO" prior to installing something like imlib2. But I checked just now, and /var/lib/pkg/db does indeed list usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tiff.la (and all the other *.la files in the imlib2 footprint, despite

11:21 <farkuhar> them not appearing in the actual filesystem).

11:25 <farkuhar> The linked ticket https://git.crux.nu/ports/core/issues/7 makes a distinction between 1, saving under /var/lib/pkg/rejected those files that were blocked by an INSTALL NO rule; and 2, writing into /var/lib/pkg/db the entries for such files. beerman correctly pointed out that the first behaviour is a "new feature" request. But FeodorPetrov claims the second behaviour isn't happening either, which

11:25 <farkuhar> contradicts my own experience (with imlib2 and others).

11:29 <pitillo> yeah farkuhar I'm aware of them :) But it's the first time I see that CRUX has its own package manager.... I was thinking in pkg-get... what is the real package management tool on CRUX

11:30 <uwumeowmeownyaa> Ah, sysup still misses some functionality :-(

11:33 <farkuhar> pitillo: "what is the real package management tool on CRUX"? Take the answer from Per himself: https://web.archive.org/web/20020213023148/http://crux.nu/docs/package_management.txt

11:38 <pitillo> yeah, I've seen pkgutils as its name indicates, a set of tools to manage packages (creation, installation, ...) but not as a real package manager

11:39 <pitillo> and as per Per answer, on CRUX we have a utilities collection to manage packages, but not a real package manager

11:40 <pitillo> and reading uwumeowmeownyaa comment, I feel he is talking about prt-get, a utility to manage ports

11:42 <pitillo> and I still find it curious that he does not spell the name of the distribution correctly... he keeps writting Crux instead of CRUX xD

11:43 <uwumeowmeownyaa> My bad, haven't seen the name for a while.

17:55 <hunter0one> Congrats on the new release \o/

18:50 <jaeger> Cheers, thanks all

19:26 <SiFuh_> jue: I am quite annoyed at the 3.8 /etc/rc script. I thought you are the one to review these modifications. (Correct me if I am wrong) this is very amateur code. The printf function for the addition of 'colour' is not correct. Whomever changed the rc script should have it written correctly. I have nothing against colour being introduced but it really can be written better and more compact for bash.

19:33 <SiFuh_> If you run it through shellcheck (Considered the standard these days) it even complains about the incorrect usage of printf. It really needs to be addressed and cleaned up.

20:11 <blackfrog78> Thank you very much for CRUX 3.8. I have just updated from 3.7. Only a bit fiddling with emacs and hexchat and now everything seems fine :-)

20:13 <SiFuh_> blackfrog78: emacs from which repo?

20:18 <blackfrog78> It's not in a repo.

20:18 <SiFuh_> blackfrog78: Okay, thanks.

20:19 <blackfrog78> Emacs build had problems with the old texinfo. Recompiling texinfo made emacs build again.

20:20 <SiFuh_> Thanks blackfrog78 I will keep that in my mind when I finally get my repo back up and running

20:20 <blackfrog78> And for hexchat from contrib, which is marked unmaintained, I had to add -Dwith-python=false to make it build.

20:21 <SiFuh_> That is an IRC client. No idea about it. irssi always here.

20:23 <blackfrog78> hexchat uses gtk, irssi has a cli interface if I remember right.

20:23 <SiFuh_> correct

20:28 <farkuhar> hexchat in contrib/3.8 has one appearance in the git log: 2023-09-16 (merged from remote-tracking branch). hexchat in contrib/3.7 has two: 2023-08-27 (moved from opt, marked unmaintained) and 2023-09-24 (dropped from the repo).

20:29 <farkuhar> I suggest we drop it from contrib/3.8 too, and let users grab the newer version from ppetrov^s repo.

20:31 <cruxbot> [contrib/3.8]: hexchat: dropped unmaintained port

20:41 <crash_> congrats on the new release :)