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<freemangordon> Hi, I am back, did I miss something in the meanwhile?
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<sicelo> we fired you :-)
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<xmn> haha!
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<dsc_> freemangordon: wb
<dsc_> note to self; xrender, and nativepainting features do not seem compiled with devuan's qt6
<dsc_> grep -rE --include="*.h" 'QT_FEATURE_xrender|native_painting' /usr/
<dsc_> /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt6/QtGui/6.4.2/QtGui/private/qtgui-config_p.h:#define QT_FEATURE_xcb_native_painting -1
<dsc_> /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt6/QtGui/6.4.2/QtGui/private/qtgui-config_p.h:#define QT_FEATURE_xrender -1
<dsc_> /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtGui/5.15.8/QtGui/private/qtgui-config_p.h:#define QT_FEATURE_xcb_native_painting 1
<dsc_> /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtGui/5.15.8/QtGui/private/qtgui-config_p.h:#define QT_FEATURE_xrender 1
<dsc_> which means the Qt6 QPA xcb maemo5 plugin cannot be compiled with those features, any compile definition passed will get overriden by the defs in those headers (QT_CONFIG(feature) macro uses it)
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: dsc is working on qt6 porting
<Wizzup> he's got very far but there I think has issues with some maemo specific widgets in the style part
<Wizzup> freemangordon: we're working on being able to use debos for images, I made a post online about the forgejo migration
<Wizzup> freemangordon: forgejo does code search like github now, instance wide (but some repos are excluded, most upstream forks are)
<Wizzup> freemangordon: and I'm going to work on the daedalus news post next
<dsc_> i managed to port all the plugins (qpa/input/plaformtheme/style) to Qt6
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<dsc_> which was NOT trivial
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<sicelo> silly question ... the qt parts seem to have migrated nicely from qt4 originally, through 5, and now 6. what makes it different/difficult for gtk2 -> 3 (and maybe) -> 4?
<sicelo> i know nothing about toolkits, but who knows ... maybe i could learn a bit to lend a hand
<sicelo> nice work dsc_
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<Wizzup> sicelo: theming for gtk3 is the problem
<Wizzup> gtk does not care about compat, at all
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<Wizzup> and qt4-qt5 took many months
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<Wizzup> sicelo: so we'd lose all our themes
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<Wizzup> we'd have to remake them
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<sicelo> so theoretically, if one didn't care a lot about the theming, they could somewhat transition to gtk3 already?
<sicelo> just trying to think (out loud) where/how one could help with migration from gtk2, where one would have to start
<Wizzup> it wouldn't look like maemo, but yes.
<Wizzup> the help is either in making some tooling to migrate our gtk2 themes to gtk3, or just recreating the themes from scratch in gtk3 style
<Wizzup> gtk2 is bitmap theming, gtk3 is css
<sicelo> oh i see. sounds difficult but perhaps somehow doable, with some time invested in learning this a little bit
<Wizzup> probably
<Wizzup> I don't know the exact fine details
<Wizzup> also: Starting from GTK 3.14, the theming engine modules are deprecated in favor of pure CSS themes, and GTK will not load them.
<sicelo> know if gtk3 would be happy with gconf2? or gconf2->gsettings migration should be higher priority?
<Wizzup> don't know
<Wizzup> at this point neither are imo until we get to excalibur
<inky> will maemo ported to gtk3 or 4 work slower because of that? but can we stay on gtk2 "forever"?
<inky> s/maemo/hildon
<Wizzup> forever does not exist
<inky> other question. on daedalus i got update to hamster filer, i got that exclamation mark in the upper bar, then if you click on it the popup (window coming from the bottom) comes and it says:
<inky> New software updates
<inky> Ovi software(1)
<inky> should that be Ovi? (:
<inky> > forever does not exist
<inky> yes that's why i said "forever". (:
<Wizzup> you can fix the translations not to asy ovi I think
<inky> i didn't enable any translations, i guess it's in the source code.
<inky> if i understand correctly, gettext and other tools work in a way that english is in the source code, they extract the strings to .po files and then translations are in dedicated .po and later compiled .mo files?
<inky> so the important part is that ovi is probably in the source code.
<Wizzup> not sure what's important about it, but there it is ^ :DF
<Wizzup> :D
<inky> well, we get the update from maemo-leste repos, from HAM, and it wrote about Ovi and i freaked out at first.
<inky> i think i never noticed it.
<inky> also because i thought that Ovi store and maemo fremantle repos were different things.
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<sicelo> ah, i see gtk2 is available in debian sid, so i guess gsettings is probably higher priority than gtk3 (for future, that is) :-)
<Wizzup> yeah think so
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<sicelo> sudo cve - CVE-2025-32463
<sicelo> we're affected, although we allow user to sudo anything anyway, so maybe in principle we're not affected :p
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<dsc_> lol the POC is funny
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<Wizzup> sicelo: dsc_: did you actually disable our passwordless sudo to see if we are affected?
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<dsc_> Wizzup: no, I just looked at the poc that was published
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