00:25 <bwbuhse> I think I might actually be having what Kon747 mentioned, but only on my laptop, and only sometimes. Occasionally, when I boot up, it'll just look "whiter"? *shrug*

11:27 <voidlinux> Hi everyone, have a good day. Can i add rule with both title and app-id? More spesificly, i want to add rule for picture-in-picture mode for firefox browser as like "riverctl rule-add -app-id "firefox" -title "picture-in-picture" ..."

11:36 <zuki> yes you can. you can even have two rules like so

11:36 <zuki> riverctl rule-add -app-id 'steam' -title '*' float

11:36 <zuki> riverctl rule-add -app-id 'steam' -title 'Steam' no-float

11:36 <zuki> were one is more exact and uses a real tileid while the other uses the * catch all and river will use the more procise rule in the case of a conflict like this.

11:37 <zuki> also i recommend using the lswt program for getting the app-id's and title ids from all the active apps.

11:37 <zuki> hopefully that is helpful

11:39 <voidlinux> zuki: Oh thanks, yes i know lswt and currently using. By the way, i learned before you typing, i just typed riverctl command wrong that is because it wasn't work :D Thanks for help anyway.

11:39 <zuki> ah cool

11:39 <Nickli> been there, done that

11:47 <voidlinux> Sorry again me but have one more question, can we ignore some windows from stack position? Like when i change focused window with my keybinds, it focus some windows which i dont want to focus anytime. Can i disable focus attritube of that windows?

11:50 <zuki> Im not aware of a way of disabling focus for some windows, the closest thing im aware off is you can use "riverctl -skip-floating focus-view next" to prevent switching focus to floating windows but that doesn't quite seem like what you want

11:50 <zuki> to be more clear I mean swap you focus-view binds to have the -skip-floating augment to prevent their focus from said binds.

11:52 <voidlinux> Maybe it could work. Actually i want that feature for showmethekey program (displayer for pressed keys), it located on bottom-center sometimes i focus to it with accidently.

11:52 <voidlinux> Thanks for tip, again.

11:54 <zuki> all good, I would like a real focus block window rule or block focus for windows in tag 28 or something like that.

11:55 <voidlinux> Yeah, it woould be good. Maybe i can do if learn zig :)

11:57 <zuki> I wanted to try zig but my lack of c experience and dislike of zig's no warnings only errors system was frustrating, especially considering that a unused var counts as a error preventing compilation.

11:59 <voidlinux> I don't know about that much programming details, just pick a language, learn it and coding :D

12:36 <aelius> even in C, no warnings all errors is a strongly suggested best practice

12:38 <zuki> that makes sense just I don't like feeling like im fighting the compliler when im messing around in a new lang.

15:00 <ifreund> zuki: if the zig compiler didn't spit out that class of error near instantly and instead take minutes per unused variable I would find it annoying

15:01 <ifreund> as it is, it's so fast to check and correct that it doesn't annoy me at all and has stopped me from writing multiple bugs over the years

15:02 <zuki> I get that... I just find for simple test projects I wish I had a simple debug only flag I could use or something.

15:32 <ifreund> catching bugs while I'm debugging is no less valuable

15:32 <ifreund> perhaps even more so

17:44 <Vitis> anyone here is able to run river 0.3.9 on Archlinux? The packaged 0.3.7 version works well but if i build the latest release I cannot do any input into any program. Keybinds to spawn things work though

17:45 <Vitis> I wanted to run the latest release to see just in case if a bug I'm having has been fixed or not

21:15 <leon-p> re errors and warnings: I teach people C at uni. The very first thing I demand is that they always add "-Werror -Wall -Wextra -Wpedantic -Wconversion -Wunused" to their compiler flags. these things catch real bugs and while it may be a bit annoying in the beginning, writing any complex program without an aggressive compiler would be painful

21:16 <leon-p> an unused variable or parameter is pretty much always a bug (unless you have to satisfy someone elses API)