havenwood changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 3.4.4, 3.3.8, 3.5.0-preview1 https://www.ruby-lang.org | Log https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/ruby
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<The_Camel> * miah has quit (Quit: too much ai vibe coding bullshit)
<The_Camel> haters gonna hate. yo momma's gonna hate.
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<o0x1eef> I don't know. I can resonate with that.
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, it's a tool.
<The_Camel> when used right, it can help.
<o0x1eef> Do you trust humans to do the right thing ;)
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, I do not. and of course, from __THAT__ point of view, I believe it can be used wrongly
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, but IT IS, without a doubt, a very useful tool.
<o0x1eef> Its proposition is that "Hey, we don't need programmers anymore and there is actually no skill or art in that profession". This is the bit I don't like. And anyway I think it is doomed to fail. Just disappointing to see it sold that way
<The_Camel> > we don't need programmers anymore and there is actually no skill or art in that profession
<The_Camel> heavily disagree with that and don't think it will turn out that way.
<The_Camel> but who knows.
<The_Camel> you can't diss engineering lol
<The_Camel> or discipline
<o0x1eef> Me too but I mean, I see people look at it that way
<The_Camel> probably those that hire developers to do work for them
<The_Camel> e.g shareholders/stakeholders/managers/etc
<The_Camel> =====================
<The_Camel> in other news, I installed Mandarin L1, L2, L3 for Rosetta stone and I can't wait to try it out
<The_Camel> I just hope they'll cover a good portion of vocab and grammar
<o0x1eef> Nice
<The_Camel> (e.g hopefully 5000)
<o0x1eef> Somehow read that as Mandrake Linux. Might need to see a doctor xD
<The_Camel> I need to research how much vocab they teach
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, :)
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<The_Camel> Rosetta Stone courses usually structure their vocabulary around practical, everyday language for beginners to intermediate learners. For Levels 1, 2, and 3 combined, the vocabulary typically ranges from about 1,000 to 1,500 words in total.
<The_Camel> Level 1 usually introduces around 300–500 basic words and phrases.
<The_Camel> Level 2 builds on that with roughly another 400–500 words.
<The_Camel> Level 3 adds about 300–500 more words, often more complex or specialized.
<The_Camel> So together, L1 to L3 can cover roughly 1,000 to 1,500 words, depending on the language and how Rosetta Stone structures it for that specific language.
<The_Camel> aww
<o0x1eef> I need this for Portuguese
<The_Camel> fine. I mean, it's rosetta stone. it's interactive.
<The_Camel> I'll take 1500 words, why not.
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, I have a cracked rosetta stone and multiple ISOs available, want it badly (I can get you a torrent) or just saying?
<o0x1eef> I appreciate the offer :) But I'm good for now
<The_Camel> No worries.
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, I really wish learning a language wasn't such a monumental task.
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, it's more complex than learning any particular subject in the world.
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<The_Camel> and it's almost useless unless you reach good intermediate-advanced level, to use it in any particular way.
<The_Camel> really sucks. but whatever.
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<o0x1eef> It's easier if you have the opportunity to practice often
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, or be around the people, I guess.
<o0x1eef> Yep
<o0x1eef> I'm in Brazil so a lot of opportunity to speak Portuguese :)
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, :)
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<o0x1eef> Everytime I have to say 'nao falo portuguese' is a missed opportunity
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, gotta also consider portuguese is a latin based language. latin isn't a complex language like, idk, arabic, hebrew or anything asian.
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<o0x1eef> Thank God :D
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, lucky you :)
<The_Camel> but regardless of complexity, fluency is always gonna be a problem so
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<The_Camel> o0x1eef, get that language cranking :P
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<The_Camel> =================================
<The_Camel> it is so hot, I drank a shitton of water and only pissed once today.
<The_Camel> lost most probably through sweating. fuck this shit warmth.
<o0x1eef> That's why I love AC
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, I love that too when I'm in eastern europe but I live in the UK and this nation generally doesn't install those by default
<The_Camel> because it's it's not usually hot here. though it has been as of late years.
<o0x1eef> Roger that
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, also, due to this being an island, humidity levels are unreal
<The_Camel> and humidity + heat produces a more, long-lingering kind of heat which is more unbearable that the same dry weather at the same temperature.
<The_Camel> than*
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, so right now, it's hell for me. can't sleep at night. sweating constantly. can't think. can't do jackshit.
<o0x1eef> Regular cold showers
<The_Camel> o0x1eef, eh. not so regular in summer :P
<The_Camel> but I guess it rained 8 days ago.
<The_Camel> it was cooler then. just, the past 3 days have been unbearably hot.
<havenwood> A friend had ML controlling the AC and his wife was threatening to murder him during the "training" while she just got to complain with a blue or red button.
<o0x1eef> Lol
<The_Camel> lol
<weaksauce> haha
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