Tartarus changed the topic of #u-boot to: SOURCE MOVED TO https://source.denx.de/u-boot/u-boot.git / U-Boot v2025.01, v2025.04-rc3 are OUT / Merge Window is CLOSED, next branch is OPEN / Release v2025.04 is scheduled for 07 April 2025 / Channel archives at https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/u-boot
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<pbrobinson> marex: further conversations on that gcc bug is happening here FYI https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2357465
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<Tartarus> Community call in about 1h15m
<qschulz> Tartarus: FYI, you could use substitution in rST for storing the current and next U-Boot versions for the docs
<qschulz> then you would only need to update one place
<Tartarus> qschulz: Oh neat, thanks
<qschulz> it's very likely of limited use-case since the version is present like twice in the docs where the missing update was, but eh
<Tartarus> Well, it'll also mean less edits on the -rc release dates part
<qschulz> Tartarus: true!
<marex> Tartarus: wasn't the call supposed to be on 7th ?
<marex> pbrobinson: thank you ... and Jakub, heh, you have the superexpert on that
<pbrobinson> marex: is it useful details, I've not had time to actually read the update properly because of meetings and travel
<Tartarus> marex: No, it's always the day after the release
<marex> The meeting details itself are:
<marex> April 7th, 2025. 9am (GMT -06:00)
<marex> pbrobinson: I think he is getting at something
<marex> "Guess using -ftrapv and function multiversioning in freestanding env without libc doesn't work well."
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<pbrobinson> marex: I suspect he was right, he generally is most of the time I've dealt with him
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<Tartarus> Sigh, at least I also pointed at the calendar link where it's correct
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<xypron> Tartarus: in the community meeting I would like to address:
<xypron> CI testing configurations with fragments, specifically acpi.config.
<xypron> Moving the Docker image to Ubuntu 24.04 (Noble).
<xypron> The channel topic needs an update.
Tartarus changed the topic of #u-boot to: SOURCE MOVED TO https://source.denx.de/u-boot/u-boot.git / U-Boot v2025.04 is OUT / Merge Window is OPEN, next branch is CLOSED / Release v2025.07 is scheduled for 07 July 2025 / Channel archives at https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/u-boot
<Tartarus> xypron: Note that moving to Ubuntu 24.04 is blocked on Simon, or someone, fixing some python packaging issues iirc
<pbrobinson> what's the python issues? We build on Fedora with latest python with no issues?
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<mkorpershoek> I think that it's because newer Ubuntu disable installing things via pip. But that's just a wild guess
<pbrobinson> ah :)
<mkorpershoek> note: i have not looked into this so it's highly probably i'm wrong
<Tartarus> Meeting time
<mkorpershoek> (hmm I was not so wrong after all, lucky guess this time)
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<marex> Tartarus: got a call, had to drop out
<Tartarus> ok
<Sout_> all hail the venv overlords. (kind of pita, but pip + distro upgrades can be painfull)
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<mkorpershoek> I have a patch for https://source.denx.de/u-boot/custodians/u-boot-dm/-/issues/37, will send soon'ish
<mkorpershoek> it's indeed using venv, as Sout_ suggested.
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<Sout_> looking at the docker file, virtualenv -p /usr/bin/python3 /tmp/venv but dont know the difference between virtualenv and venv
<cambrian_invader> venv is just the name of a directory
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<Sout_> err meant virtualenv vs python -m venv. Googling seems like virtualenv is a more feature full venv.
<cambrian_invader> venv is implemented in python, virtualenv is not
<Sout_> ah k.
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<Tartarus> mkorpershoek: oh nice, thanks!
<Tartarus> I would note we use "virtualenv" in all the CI scripts, so maybe for consistency do that?
<sjg1> Tartarus: Sorry I had to drop off for another meeting. Let me know what you want to do with bloblist
<sjg1> calebccff: Re the devicetree selection, if there is something I can dig into I am happy to spend some time on it. Please let me know how I can help
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<Tartarus> sjg1: I think re bloblist in the end we'll be in the same spot. But please work towards getting rid of BLOBLIST_FIXED with the same priority as adding OF_BLOBLIST because I believe in the long term, with "Is there a bloblist" de-coupled from "make a bloblist" everyone will be on the same page
<Tartarus> That might even mean making some new BLOBLIST symbols, I dunno
<Tartarus> I spent a few hours down this path a few months ago now
<sjg1> Yes I'm always happy to work on follow-ups and yes I am pretty sure we can drop BLOBLIST_FIXED
<sjg1> Tartarus: I'll wait to see if you apply my series, I suppose?
<Tartarus> sjg1: I think you need to spin a new series to start with maybe? I'll check later this week
<sjg1> Tartarus: Yes I need to try it on QEMU. I also found that my old standard passage series never got applied, so that could be causing part of the confusion here. I will have to see if I can resurrect it
<Tartarus> sjg1: Ah right, your current series breaks passage and so that needs to be fixed, yes
<sjg1> Tartarus: I would argue that unless there is a CI test that fails, we shouldn't worry about it too much. If no one can be bothered to add one, then it isn't that important. Also it seems that bloblist in TF-A is just a PR, not landed yet
<Tartarus> Maybe just look at old series as reference and not directly uplifting, standard passage is working now and part of this divorce is that others are handling standard passage
<sjg1> Tartarus: OK, I'll take a look at these two things
<Tartarus> sjg1: I just got how to run the tests documented. It's not in CI because it wasn't a 5 minute job I could give someone else to do
<Tartarus> s/the tests/the vexpress platform with FVP/
<Tartarus> And we aren't going to knowingly break things that aren't in CI when people are still testing them
<sjg1> Tartarus: Yes, OK
<sjg1> Tartarus: (I don't mean that I agree with that philosophy, just that I'll do it in this case)
<clamor> sjg1: I couldn't test your changes since they are not accessible nor via browser, nor via git clone. It requires signing up
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<marex> Tartarus: telco was nice, but sigh, got interrupted multiple times
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<sjg1> clamor: It shouldn't require that. Can you try this link: https://sjg.u-boot.org/u-boot/u-boot
<clamor> sjg1: that actually works. Thanks
<clamor> The link, I haven't tested the build yet
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<sjg1> clarity: OK, good. I'll see if I can figure out how to fix permissions
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