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<kierank>
lol git.kernel.org removed the weeb crap
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<another|>
kierank: wdym?
<another|>
it's still protected by anubis
<kierank>
Yes but they removed the anime crap
<kepstin>
yeah, the anubis dev is using the "no anime girl" version as a premium upgrade to get a source of income
<psykose>
oh no, i saw an anime png, my life is ruined
<kepstin>
(apparently some other people have requested they make a "more different anime girls" version available as a paid upgrade too)
<another|>
I have never seen the Anubis char at any kernel.org domain. To my knowledge they always had a neutral cogwheel/checkbox theme
<another|>
kierank: Have you ever seen the anime char at kernel.org ?
<kepstin>
i'm pretty sure kernel.org has always used the neutral graphics version
<psykose>
i think that removed means 'they removed it' not 'they used to have it and then later removed it'
<kierank>
One time michaelni was "trying to get money from the air force" for FFmpeg
<kierank>
I'm sure anime pngs will go down well
<kepstin>
not guaranteed, have you seen the sorts of things they like to paint on fighter jets?
<psykose>
yeah, i hear the people that drop bombs will make you their next target if they get a whiff of that japanese stuff, very dangerous
<kierank>
Incredible to see this project with all the sane people gone
<kierank>
Anime on the ffmpeg homepage soon
<kepstin>
anubis _is_ open-source, you could compile it yourself with whatever images you want.
<jamrial>
kierank: if it bothers you so much, you can ask BtbN to remove it like kernel did
<BtbN>
There is no way I'm aware of to simply change the image
<BtbN>
you'd need to fork the project first
<kierank>
It's not about the anime image, it's about people leaving (in part) because of lack of transparency of infrastructure, then infrastructure getting worse and worse
<BtbN>
There's deliberately no setting for it, and the URL for it is randomized so you can't trivially just put a different one there via reverse proxy
<kierank>
Anime being one of them, forejo, we still don't know who owns avcodec.org
<BtbN>
Who left because of "lack of transparency of infrastructure"? What?
<kierank>
Anton obviously
<kierank>
Paul as well
<BtbN>
I highly doubt that
<kierank>
Mainly over SDR to be fair
<kierank>
He literally wrote that in his email
<jamrial>
what about sdr?
<kierank>
Anton said he's leaving because Michael was refusing to answer infrastructure questions
<BtbN>
I also don't know what there is to be even more transparent about
<kierank>
Who owns avcodec.org
<BtbN>
It's known where all the servers are, who's hosting them, who has access to them...
<kierank>
Who runs the dns
<BtbN>
DNS master is in the same server as ffmpeg.org
<kierank>
It's dependent on avcodec.org
<kierank>
And we don't know who owns that
<BtbN>
The whole infra right now is pretty much 3 VMs hosted by the bulgarian company
<BtbN>
I'm pretty sure that's just Michaels Domain.
<kierank>
"pretty sure"
<BtbN>
He was able to change DNS entries, soo
<kierank>
"lack of transparency"
<kierank>
ns2 and ns3 could be anybody
<BtbN>
ns2 is literally me
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<BtbN>
No idea who ns3 is, but it's just a slave that pulls from ns1
<kierank>
No words
<kierank>
Really
<BtbN>
I also don't really understand what the supposed big deal about all this is
<BtbN>
sounds to me like "I want to be angry about something so I pick something and yell"
<jamrial>
michael does not want individual names to be public as that would be an attack vector, in his own words
<BtbN>
Someone is always going to hold the keys. The people holding the keys right now have done so reliably for far over a decade or more.
<jamrial>
hence "provided by an ffmpeg developer" used in infra.txt
<jamrial>
does it make sense to hide that information? i don't know
<BtbN>
To prevent some super hypothetical social engineering attack I guess. But much bigger targets of a project have it public and are fine.
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<cone-481>
ffmpeg James Almer master:c4ea4abec28d: avcodec: add an APV parser
<cone-481>
ffmpeg James Almer master:33d0d1c672e8: avformat/apvdec: don't fill container level fields with codec level info
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