02:47 <whitequark[cis]> this has been brought up before and the big issue is that translation adds latency and can appear to "swallow" certain sequences (parts of multi-byte ones if there's a delay in the middle)

03:12 <danderson> yup I'm definitely paying a small price for fixing up the stream in this case. Definitely wouldn't want it doing stuff by default

03:12 <danderson> but sounds like that's probably a no even as an optional thing?

03:15 <whitequark[cis]> i'm not sure. i think an implementation that's uninvasive could work, it's just not entirely trivial to do that

03:18 <sazzach[m]> Would using the pty mode with Minicom work for you?

03:43 <danderson> oh, it might. I was using the tty mode, didn't consider going deeper.

03:44 <danderson> I'll ponder if I can come up with a clean way to do the translation, I have some rough ideas for doing it in the gateware directly but I need to know much more amaranth before I can do anything about that

03:45 <danderson> meanwhile back to "LED y u no light up as instructed" on this stupid board

03:48 <whitequark[cis]> doing it in gateware might not be a bad call but that would first need some refactoring to wrap UART to be stream based

03:48 <whitequark[cis]> or otherwise make sure the translation happens on streams

03:51 <danderson> ah yeah I think I saw a todo about reworking the UART but didn't dig into it too much, since my thing is a slow debugging bus I just mashed a bytes.replace into the applet code and moved on

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12:40 <_whitenotifier-8> [glasgow] whitequark created branch update-lockfile - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow

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