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<_whitenotifier-4> [glasgow] github-merge-queue[bot] created branch gh-readonly-queue/main/pr-930-321f0a118ab646f53b1a35165b2806e404d0df9b - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow
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<whitequark[cis]> ohhhhhh, it's that problem
<galibert[m]> I'm curious to know what's behind the "that" :-)
<whitequark[cis]> there was a snafu in the yosys release process (for which i am partly to blame) and the fix for it wasn't merged in time for the release
<galibert[m]> ahhhhhhh
<whitequark[cis]> specifically https://github.com/YosysHQ/yosys/pull/5182
<galibert[m]> shit happens
<galibert[m]> but that's why the merge fails
<whitequark[cis]> yeah i'm looking into it
<galibert[m]> :-) I was curious how I had managed to break something while not niticing it before
<galibert[m]> s/niticing/noticing/
<galibert[m]> I didn't, so that's good
<whitequark[cis]> our CI is way too flaky for my liking
<galibert[m]> Lots of moving pieces. Unnamed should make it more stable at some point, hopefully
<galibert[m]> It there an issue with changing the gateware for the analyzer? It needs to be taught streams instead of pipes
<_whitenotifier-4> [glasgow] whitequark synchronize pull request #930: i2c-initiator conversion to V2 - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/930
<whitequark[cis]> galibert: i don't really want to handle the analyzer any time soon. the code is old and very bad (there are tests failling for no reason that are just disabled as a result) and doesn't perform well
<galibert[m]> ok, it has been useful lately as a quick&dirty LA when I don't feel like connecting the saleae. I agree that it doesn't perform fell though
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<galibert[m]> overflowing after 30ms is ridiculous
<whitequark[cis]> the problem with building an LA is that the capture side is easy, it's the display side that's a problem
<galibert[m]> s/fell/well/
<whitequark[cis]> gtkwave is awful, pulseview is very marginally less awful or in some cases more, what do you do?
<_whitenotifier-4> [glasgow] whitequark synchronize pull request #930: i2c-initiator conversion to V2 - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/930
<whitequark[cis]> galibert: i've amended your PR, take a look at the additional change in docs/manual/ (i forgot to comment on that in review)
<galibert[m]> yeah
<_whitenotifier-4> [glasgow] whitequark synchronize pull request #930: i2c-initiator conversion to V2 - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/930
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<galibert[m]> You mean we should document applets when they are converted if they weren't before?
<galibert[m]> Or just add them to the list in the doc if it's missing?
<whitequark[cis]> v1 applets can't be added to sphinx docs
<whitequark[cis]> v2 applets can be. so when you convert an applet to v2, you should add it to the manual
<galibert[m]> makes sense, wouldn't have guessed though :-)
<whitequark[cis]> for sure, that's why i'm saying that it was my responsibility to point it out in review or beforehand
<galibert[m]> no problem, I'll know for the next ones
<whitequark[cis]> thanks
<_whitenotifier-4> [glasgow] github-merge-queue[bot] created branch gh-readonly-queue/main/pr-930-321f0a118ab646f53b1a35165b2806e404d0df9b - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow
<whitequark[cis]> anyway, i think something else worth pointing out is that while i usually do some housekeeping work on V2 applets to bring them closer in line to what i'd expect from a new applet today (and to serve as an example), i have no expectation of you doing the same work; for several reasons main of which is that there's no guidance on writing an applet so it's not like you would know what i expect
<whitequark[cis]> (also, i'm in the process of figuring out what the guidance should be)
<galibert[m]> yeah, I get that. It's obvious you're not yet 100% sure where things should go exactly, which is perfectly normal at this point. But the conversions can become tedious, so advancing them may help you working on those parts
<whitequark[cis]> the difficult part of conversions for me is something you would probably find unexpected
<whitequark[cis]> which is "standing up and going no more than 15m to where the device is and then going back to the laptop"
<galibert[m]> I wouldn't have expected the 15m
<whitequark[cis]> well sometimes it's upstairs
<whitequark[cis]> usually it's more like 2m
<galibert[m]> My glasgow is less than 20cm from the keyboard :-)
<whitequark[cis]> i have 5 on my desk right now
<whitequark[cis]> but the DUTs are not
<galibert[m]> I have port A connected to the internals of a mu100b, and port b to a i2c 128x64 screen I haven't yet managed to turn on (but which does reply in i2c)
<_whitenotifier-4> [GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow] github-merge-queue[bot] pushed 4 commits to main [+3/-0/±15] https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/compare/321f0a118ab6...9710170163cf
<_whitenotifier-4> [glasgow] whitequark closed pull request #930: i2c-initiator conversion to V2 - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/930
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<whitequark[cis]> finally merged
<galibert[m]> phew, it was resisting
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<_whitenotifier-4> [glasgow] galibert opened pull request #936: applet.sensor.bmx280: convert to GlasgowAppletV2 - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/936
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