<sad_plan>
but it seems to fluctuate between states
<kris_>
yeah laws for driving as a whole vary heavily
<kris_>
different countries basically
<sad_plan>
yeah. but at a quick glance, it seems like ~30mph in atleast residential is somewhat of a standard here
<kris_>
i figured google maps might tell me but w/e
<sad_plan>
it can
<sad_plan>
not sure if itll show you if youre not driving there though
<sad_plan>
meaning as when youre just looking at the map I mean.
<kris_>
yeah i dont see it on the normal map
<kris_>
most of it is residential so im guessing like 30mph max
<kris_>
nvm 25mph
<kris_>
that bike can easily do that so ig i can just ride it in the road
<kris_>
except i get to be silly and ride it on the sidewalk and just entirely avoid traffic
<kris_>
which is a huge benefit to having a bike instead of a car
<sad_plan>
best of both worlds
<kris_>
one thing i'm concerned about is the -35f degree weather in winter
<kris_>
i guess that's dealable though given appropriate clothing
<sad_plan>
well, your range would go down, but unless you have a really long way to whereever you need to go, I suppose its fine.
<sad_plan>
yep
<kris_>
meh it's <5 miles
<sad_plan>
I had some friends drive atvs to school when we were younger in the winter, and just dress accordingly really. wear wool, and windproof outer layers and you should be good to go
<sad_plan>
thats not too bad
<kris_>
well the wind here is *crazy*
<kris_>
so it's not just -35f, it's also blowing enough to make it legitimately difficult to walk against the wind
<sad_plan>
ebikes usually have a decent range. and you can probabbly charge at work or whereever
<sad_plan>
damn
<kris_>
depends on how lazy you are
<kris_>
the one im looking at can do 45 miles at least on a single charge
<kris_>
given i weigh basically nothing and don't mind pedaling, probably closer to 65
<kris_>
if you get the secondary battery, over 100 miles
<sad_plan>
sounds good to me
<kris_>
and yeah this is so i can go to uni
<kris_>
yeah i dont think the ride will be too bad, rain is more concerning tbh
<kris_>
i will have to become waterproof
<sad_plan>
protecting yourself against rain is terrible really. rubberized raingear is the only true waterproof raingear.. buut it doesnt breath at all.
<sad_plan>
any other raingear claiming waterproof is basically lying. their only waterproof to a certain degree
<sad_plan>
the more it breaths, the less water it can handle. and vice versa
<sad_plan>
i think layers here could be benefitial really
<kris_>
idk ill see
<kris_>
if it's way too bad to even consider i can just get a ride
<kris_>
via a family member or just get an uber or something
<sad_plan>
yeah. hitchhiking is also still a thing C:
<kris_>
likely not uber though, funny thing, i decided to try that out so i got a ride to a store like a few towns away
<kris_>
got there perfectly fine, bought my shit, went to get another uber to find they had banned me for some reason
<kris_>
tried lyft and that didn't work either
<kris_>
so basically i was sitting on the side of a 4 lane road for nearly 5 hours waiting for someone to come pick me up
<sad_plan>
tough luck
<kris_>
im guessing they don't like my degoogled ROM
<kris_>
but like they let me >get there
<sad_plan>
maybe not. get a pixel, and install grapheneOS
<kris_>
not a fan of graphene
<sad_plan>
how come?
<kris_>
sandboxed or not you're still using gapps
<kris_>
i'm using divestos right now so sandboxed microg instead
<kris_>
though divestos isnt developed anymore so i need to figure out what to do about that
<sad_plan>
divestOS is dead. and from a security standpoint, microG is utter trash really
<kris_>
a lot of the security standpoints ive heard about microg are severely misinformed
<sad_plan>
you could just use aurorastore. i use it. but I need gapps for some stuff I use. but ive put it into a separate profile
<kris_>
primarily propaganda from graphene, actually
<kris_>
which is a big issue to me personally, half the shit i see them say via their twitter account or otherwise is just so far from correct
<kris_>
and yeah unfortunately i need some gapps implementation for notifications from some apps
<sad_plan>
I dont belive its propaganda. its actual security researching. but sure, the community, or developers can at times come out as kinda hard
<kris_>
i'm probably going to flee back to lineageos unfortunately
<kris_>
but no- the primary concern with microg is that *generally* it's rootful and not sandboxed
<kris_>
on divestos this is not true
<kris_>
on other roms it is unfortunately
<kris_>
^ and the concerns with signature spoofing are unfounded
<sad_plan>
in any case, you can use aurora, andb have gapps installed, but not logged in. its what I do. this way, atleast theres no account. it cant access anything either, because it doesnt have any permissions
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<kris_>
generally signature spoofing is specifically allowed for microg alone
<kris_>
do look at lineageos4microgs implementation of that
<kris_>
crdroids implementation of signature spoofing is incorrect
<kris_>
and yeah i'm guessing that's what i'll end up doing, either that or going back to doing my own builds of lineageos with microg
<kris_>
lineageos + mindthegapps is still absolutely worse than lineageos + microg
<kris_>
with battery life too
<sad_plan>
yeah, I know calyxOS did something like this aswell, they only allowd to spoof to this or something like that. which is probably a fine compromise. but I just like GOS better. not that ive tried calyx or divest, but ive ran LOS, and still do on my tablet. which ive been meaning to toss out really. it ancient now
<kris_>
i have a oneplus 8t so i'm limited on roms and i refuse to just replace a device that's still so beyond overkill
<sad_plan>
batterylife isnt really that much of an issue on GOS, its all about what apps you use. say signal without gapps, is worse than molly
<sad_plan>
or molly foss that is
<kris_>
i think calyxos does this the same way los4microg does yeah
<kris_>
which is probably what i'd be running if i had a pixel
<sad_plan>
I get that. I wouldve waited longer when I used my 4a, but the usb was just utterly wrecked on that thing
<kris_>
i ran just vanilla lineageos + regular gapps from ~2013-mid 2024
<kris_>
well back when i got into it it was cyanogenmod
<kris_>
crazy time for me to switch to divestos given it died like 6 months after i did that
<sad_plan>
I ran LOS for a while aswell, on my old oneplus 6, but it got smashed aswell iirc
<sad_plan>
great. always amazing when our phones die on us
<kris_>
how did it get smashed lol
<kris_>
if it was a pixel i'd expect it to have just randomly failed
<sad_plan>
well, someone tossed it across the room in anger. not me though. I thought it was completely wrecked, but it did boot. got myself a new screen and managed to fry the motherboard...
<kris_>
unlucko
<sad_plan>
I had no issues with my pixels really. theyve been really good to me
<sad_plan>
yeah. but on the other hand, I then got to get a pixel 4a, which is what I wanted, so I could finally install grapheneOS
<kris_>
at this point im tempted to get a oneplus 6t and install postmarketos
<kris_>
i literally only use my phone for sms, emails, 2fa codes
<kris_>
occasionally calls
<sad_plan>
ive always hated all the nonsense ROMs install by default, and grapheneOS doesnt really do that. the default apps are at a minimum, and stay true to w/e is upstream, unless they provide you with something else
<sad_plan>
right. ive been curious about PMOS myself, or just linux on phones in general.
<kris_>
it's not good
<kris_>
if you use your phone like "normal people" do it's a nogo
<sad_plan>
but with pinephone being a turd, and libre 5 being an utter catastrohpy, im not so sure
<kris_>
the best you can do is a oneplus 6t
<kris_>
mobian might have better support for more things, not sure
<sad_plan>
yeah, I know, I would like to try it mostly for the tinkering
<sad_plan>
but I have a wm on my phone, which atleast gives me a proper linux env using alpine. which I really dont use besides rsyncing my shit to my computer
<sad_plan>
so.. I might end up never using it anyway, which would be a waste of money
<kris_>
id just drive what you have now into the ground and then reevaluate once its time to get a new one
<sad_plan>
yeah, the 6t is decent from what ive seen. theres couple others aswell. I think the fairphone is good. atleast for ubuntu touch. I think PMOS was decent aswell
<kris_>
i do love modern features so i dont think id get a fp
<kris_>
if i were to get a new phone right now it'd be this
<sad_plan>
when my 6a shits the bed, id just get a newer pixel really. my requirements is just not compatible with linux phones atm
* sad_plan
shurgs
<sad_plan>
right
<kris_>
sd card slot *and* a headphone jack on a modern device with actually good specs
<kris_>
it's incredible
<kris_>
the cameras absolutely tank when you install a third party rom though sadly, as with most devices atp
<sad_plan>
if I didnt care about the security aspect and such around graphene, id just get a fairphone because its super repairable
<sad_plan>
I miss having a AUX sloty
<sad_plan>
sd card is also really decent to have
<kris_>
realistically i just have my phone reboot if i dont touch it within 8 hours
<kris_>
as long as it's encrypted, whatever
<sad_plan>
didnt know LOS had this feature?
<kris_>
divestos
<kris_>
ill probably implement it myself on lineage when i inevitably move back
<sad_plan>
right. theyve implemented it from GOS. I forgot
<kris_>
the sad thing here is that even though i'm running the final build of divestos it's probably going to remain far more secure than lineageos will for a *very* long time
<kris_>
los is really bad security wise
<sad_plan>
were you able to relock the bootloader on yours? I know the implementation of this is a disaster on some phones, where it could brick your divece
<sad_plan>
yeo
<kris_>
no, not on the op8t
<sad_plan>
which is kinda why I dont use it. all builds are debug builds, and so on
<kris_>
i daily drove crdroid for a little bit but it has so many stupid decisions that i just can't respect it
<sad_plan>
I would rather run divestOS, but.. its dead now. so if not GOS, then maybe i would go with calyx if GOS just wasnt an option
<kris_>
feature bloat, it varies HEAVILY between devices because it's just whatever the maintainers feel like
<kris_>
not very stable
<kris_>
allows signature spoofing for any app if you allow it via developer options
<sad_plan>
right. I remember trying a lot of different ones each week on my op6. arrowOS, sayberiaOS, LOS, and so on. eventually I just got fed up with the whole deal and stuck with LOS, because it kinda just worked, and atleast it recieved updates
<sad_plan>
damn
<sad_plan>
thats terrible
<kris_>
what did you think about arrowos
<kris_>
i've never used it
<sad_plan>
uh.. it was mostly just like any other ROM really.
<sad_plan>
nothing special really
<kris_>
idk im really picky with what i will and wont run, android is such a huge project that it would be trivial to sneak something in
<kris_>
los is at least trustworthy
<sad_plan>
oh, I g2g
<kris_>
ttyl
<sad_plan>
well, with LOS, atleast you know what you get
<sad_plan>
yep
<chungstoin>
what am I doing wrong with my gkiss install? it just gets stuck on loading linux 6.7.9
<kris_>
you probably forgot a driver when configuring your kernel
<chungstoin>
what drivers are likely
<chungstoin>
I'm on a thinkpad 270
<chungstoin>
x
<chungstoin>
I seen a reddit post say he fixed his install by enabling framebuffer, I was missing it, but installing it didn't fix it