<r0ni>
ppetrov^ I added that xfce4 mate plugin, cleaned up just a teeny bit, sory it took me so long, life finds a way heh
<ppetrov^>
ah, great! thank you! honestly, I did not expect you to do it, since it is not part of xfce officially
<ppetrov^>
i just use the (short) commits as a version and that's it...
<ppetrov^>
btw, i thought iPhone sucks, because of the weird way you access them to transfer files, but it seems stuff on Android is no longer as simple as it used to be
<ppetrov^>
now I am reading about MTP
<r0ni>
i've not tampered with android since my kids were little and had those cheap amazon tablets, but i'd always found things on android to be even more annoying than iOS, but that may be because I have Macs so iOS things work better on my end. android is like a black box to me anymore
<ppetrov^>
yes... I hate smartphones and have and old iPhone. However, I bought a new Samsung for someone and I am trying to set it up and I absolutely hate it
<ppetrov^>
i liked Huawei, their phones came with their own apps for basic stuff... now I have to dig the google play store to find a decent music player
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<farkuhar>
r0ni: ppetrov^: Thanks for the warning about how complicated Android phones have become. Now I'll think twice before accepting a secondhand Android device from friends who are downsizing.
<ppetrov^>
farkuhar, I am a guy who hates smartphones and who uses the phone as a phone only
<ppetrov^>
so my opinion *might* be biased
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<ppetrov^>
hsp_, any luck with installing a desktop environment?
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