<ukky> Cool fact: the core (base) set of initial NetBSD release (0.8) was 5.7M compressed and 16M uncompressed. Minimum RAM: 4M. Minimum HDD: 30M. CPU: i386/i486
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<ppetrov^> in pkgadd.conf, why do we have rules like "^etc/rc\.d/wlan$", but below, there's no backslash to eskape the dot in "^etc/udev/rules.d/.*$"?
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<ukky> ppetrov^: it's a mild, forgiving bug. The rule still does what it was intended to do. It should have a backslash: rules\.d
<ppetrov^> should I open a ticket for that? Also, I think studd in /etc/revdep.d should be updated. At the moment they are skipped, so I added this: UPGRADE^etc/revdep\.d/.*$YES
<ukky> ppetrov^: it should be your decision about opening a ticket.
<ppetrov^> heh
<ukky> If revdep.d is not updated, it must be saved in 'rejected'. Thus, you just run 'rejmerge' to update the content after inspection.
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<ppetrov^> nothing wrong with stuff in revdep.d being updated, if the updated Pkgfile introduced sth new. So, imho, stuff there should always be updated. They are not conf files after all
<ukky> As a test, tried to boot from OpenBSD 7.6 install USB on my main system. It hangs after displaying: disk: hd0 hd1 hd2 hd3 hd4. Only 4 lines of boot messages.
<SiFuh> ukky: install77.img or install77.iso?
<ukky> SiFuh: The same USB install image I used for installing 7.6 onto other system and that setup was working well.
<ukky> My goal is to trigger OpenBSD kernel panic at boot, when kernel scans sensors.
<ukky> OpenBSD 7.6 loaded from pre-installed HDD hangs at 'UKC>' prompt when I try to configure kernel via 'boot -c'. No more tests.
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<SiFuh> ukky: Cody Lundin, basically replied saying he is flat out busy with his survival school. But he did ask me to go ahead and prepare and plan the location, and all that other stuff and in the future he'd be willing to join me. Matt Graham has not returned my call as of yet.
<ukky> SiFuh: maybe he is busy or has no interest.
<zorz> maybe the 2nd
<zorz> :P
<SiFuh> ukky: No he seemed interested. When I started reading, I thought not interested but at the end of the email he asked me to prepare a brief and a plan and then he'd consider it. And he said this "Accurate instruction is all about bioregionalism. I would be learning from YOU in Malaysia." Which kind of shocked me. This is what made me think he might not be interested but when he said to provide the brief
<SiFuh> and show him, he will definitely consider the challenge.
<SiFuh> So in the end it felt more of a "I am too busy, but if you can show me a flow chart and brief and location, in the future, we may actually do it.
<SiFuh> ukky: So today in the jungle the wife asks me "The kids always come to our campsite to hang out with you. But today they do not. Why?"
<SiFuh> I said "It is simple. They come to our campsite because I am a fun, knowledgeable adult. The reason they don't come today is they are depressed. They know they are going home"
<SiFuh> zorz: Met the owner. He gave me firewood and allowed me to make a fire. He also ignored that I had alcohol.
<SiFuh> He invited me back when quiet
<remiliascarlet> zorz: I just use ZSH pretty much everywhere.
<zorz> SiFuh: cool :P
<zorz> remiliascarlet: i just need something simple with completions. yash second day is good so far.
<zorz> my running shell is ksh
<remiliascarlet> If you need something simple, then just use POSIX shell straight from the first release of Unix.
<remiliascarlet> Or make your own.
<remiliascarlet> Make a shell from scratch in Assembly. Can't get any simpler than that!
<remiliascarlet> Assembly sounds scary, but I actually used it for multiple platforms before, and it's really not that bad.
<remiliascarlet> Except that it's hard to compile under OpenBSD for some reason.
<zorz> as I said, something simple with completions.
<zorz> yash is a good interactive shell.
<remiliascarlet> Make your own shell in Assembly then.
<zorz> why? its ready.
<remiliascarlet> Because you can make it as simple as you want, and it's a great opportunity to learn how to make one.
<zorz> i have better things to do.... but if i was going to learn something new now, only ksh93u+m. only this is a shell.
<remiliascarlet> You know what I like about IRC? People actually being able to properly write English.
<remiliascarlet> zorz: What could be better than understanding how the shit you're terminally using actually works?
<zorz> remiliascarlet: are you sure that people write properly English in IRC? :Pp
<remiliascarlet> zorz: Compared to all these soydev platforms where all the zoomers and younger hang around, absolutely!
<zorz> aaa never bein... no opinion
<remiliascarlet> You literally can't understand anything at all there without having Urban Dictionary opened up at all times.
<zorz> Truth
<SiFuh> I'a dunno WTF remi hockin' lurgies 'bout
<zorz> Lmao
<zorz> hahahaa
<SiFuh> It is true.
<SiFuh> She is fucking correct 100%
<SiFuh> These new retarded generations just assume and expect you to understand the vomit form their mouths. Look at the fucking Olutmies. He's so acronym based you need to learn a new language to understand what the fucking shit he is trying to converse
<zorz> SiFuh: i was thinking yesterday since pkgutils are outdated,,, why not to go with pkgsrc. and disqussed that with ukky.
<zorz> since both of you online... what do you think about it ?
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: I just call it "jungle speak".
<SiFuh> He just naturally assumes everyone knows what his acronymns are then laughs at you if you don't
<SiFuh> Jungle speak? Don't offend my Jungle remiliascarlet
<zorz> remiliascarlet: retardio speak
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: In the sense of them being incomprehensable.
<SiFuh> zorz: Hahahaha "He dude, can we speak retardio?" "Shaw fing broz!"
<zorz> hahahahaha
<zorz> figlets?
<zorz> :P
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: But the jungle is not incomprehensible.
<remiliascarlet> Took me a long time to figure out that a skull emoticon to them means "HAHAHAHAHA".
<SiFuh> zorz: I saw zorzster. And I tested it as ukky had mention that he had mentioned his mentioning of it to me and I remember his mentioning after he mentioned it to you and yes, I agree.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Today I was teaching John Brown style to kids how to read animal tracks and what the animal was doing, what size it was, what species it was and whilst teaching them the fucking idiots just walked through all the tracks and erased all evidence
<zorz> remiliascarlet: you see in order for SiFuh to say i agree,,, he has linuxiation... he wrote half an essay
<SiFuh> zorz: farkuhar is a good teacher
<remiliascarlet> zorz: What the fuck is a Linuxiation?
<SiFuh> HAHAHAHAHA remiliascarlet doesn't know what Linuxiation is.... Olutmies style of response
<SiFuh> Actually I don't know what the fuck it means either
<SiFuh> I usually just ignore gobbldygook
<SiFuh> gobbledygook
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: I usually just mock gobbldygook.
<SiFuh> zorz = gobbldygook. So mock him
<zorz> farkuhariation + linuxiation.... OMG!
<remiliascarlet> Like when they say "fr", I say "are you French?". Sometimes they feel forced to then spell it out in full: "for real".
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Irdnkwtfyata
<remiliascarlet> zorz: Hope nobody will zorziation here.
<zorz> hm so fr=for real. i think i need to refresh my Μορσε ψοδε
<zorz> Morse Code
<SiFuh> ukky: Anyways. All the kids were safe. I did jump into a river to save a kid from floating off and then he just stood up in the river. So I was kind of pissed off because this Autistic kid just annoyed the poo out of everyone.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: zorziation.... everybody happy :P
<zorz> SiFuh: reminds you of yourself? :Pp
<SiFuh> Stop zorzing zorz
<SiFuh> zorz: No.
<zorz> lol
* zorz zorzing now.
<remiliascarlet> That name is so exploitable. Zorziation, zorzing.
<SiFuh> I am neither retardio or Autistic zorz
<zorz> remiliascarlet: yes like Aviation
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet is now farkuharing us
<zorz> hahahahaha
<SiFuh> or/nor*
<remiliascarlet> So we got zorzing and lavaballing. What does farkuharing refer to?
<zorz> lavaballing has to do with balls.... like par example break
<SiFuh> To spam the channel with biblical text sized paragraphs and completely out of context from what everyone else is speaking. And it can last for days.
<SiFuh> And I mean days... and days... and days...
<remiliascarlet> zorz: No, "lavaballing" means "forcing someone to do something against their will".
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Or fucking kiddies
<zorz> yeap
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: https://i.snipboard.io/sKryG9.jpg I found this in the jungle.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: By the way, I ate crab again since it was really cheap now. Immediately reminded me to your stomach pain story after eating a crab.
<SiFuh> Wild Asian bees walking around a wax and bee vomit condo they build for their nursery
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Did you get them?
<remiliascarlet> No, I simply looked at that dead crab, and got reminded to that.
<SiFuh> zorz: Common mistake and sometimes deadly are when people eat crabs cooked in their own organs or worse eat their organs.
<remiliascarlet> I ate that thing raw.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Very painful
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: One of the top ten lists of survival is NEVER EAT ANYTHING RAW.
<SiFuh> That is extreme survival only
<remiliascarlet> I can understand that cooked crab can cause problems, but raw is delicious.
<remiliascarlet> How are you supposed to survive if you're not allowed to eat anything raw?
<SiFuh> I've eaten raw, but if you can't understand why it can cause a problem, you really need to spend 6 weeks in the jungle with me whilst you cry for a medivac helicopter that is over 100KM away
<remiliascarlet> I've eaten raw meat for over a year I think, not a single problem.
<SiFuh> You cook food food to kill foreigner bacteria and parasites.
<SiFuh> Some of those parasites can evade your immune system
<remiliascarlet> And haven't been sick the whole time, so I don't think I can buy this myth.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Technically you have not because that meat is gassed for transport to stop the bacteria from devouring it and making it rotten
<zorz> i dont it crabs
<SiFuh> I don't it anything too
<remiliascarlet> I'm talking about locally sourced ones. I don't trust supermarket meat.
<remiliascarlet> zorz: I don't it crabs, and also no STDs.
<SiFuh> Okay... can you prove it. Secondly parasites live inside you for decades, eating off of you and you can go years without knowing you have one.
<SiFuh> I ahd a tape worm twice and I never even got it from meat. I got it from vegetables.
<SiFuh> zorz: That is because remiliascarlet blocked and banned lavaball. So she is STD free
<remiliascarlet> I didn't block him, I only banned him off #crux-social.
<SiFuh> He's such a cry baby over it
<SiFuh> Calls you the evil Jap that banned him
<remiliascarlet> The reason I didn't block him or banned him here as well is simply because I don't really see the reason to do so.
<SiFuh> I will message him right now!
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Well, I just sent out ships to take over the entire Pacific Ocean and bomb Pearl Harbor, so maybe he's not wrong.
<SiFuh> Funny how remiliascarlet gets banned a lot and we give her absolute authority here because we like her.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Once you get banned from everywhere, you will care about free speech and/or free expression (depending on the reason of the bans).
<remiliascarlet> But I also value freedom of association.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Speak what you want yellow nigger bitch.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Speak for youself, white nigger in Asia.
<remiliascarlet> s/youself/yourself
<zorz> wowwwwww
<zorz> go and fight in Africa... niggers
<remiliascarlet> zorz: Olive oil nigger!
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I got told my a Malay kid that a Bruce Lee was defeat by a Malaysian Silat master. BAHAHAHA when I said he is full of shit and that is 100% false his mother said "Australian knowledge and Malaysian Knolwedge are not the same" What a dumb fucking to say.
<zorz> hahaha
<SiFuh> zorz: Fucking facist democratic worshipping pig
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: "Australian knowledge and Malaysian Knolwedge are not the same" Saying to somebody who hasn't lived in Australia for over a half of his life.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Good point, but name one documented person to ever beat Bruce Lee in a real fight?
<SiFuh> No cheating
<remiliascarlet> I don't care about who did or didn't beat Bruce Lee.
<SiFuh> WHAT?
<SiFuh> GETR OUT OF HERE!
<SiFuh> OMG you are crazy
<zorz> best thing i read today sifuh is this https://hiddenagenda.ltd.uk/blog/openbsd-firefox-upload-dir/ and it works. no need to touch unveil
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Two weeks ago I was thinking reflecting on my jungle life then I realised something that I never even thought of. Every mammal, bird or crocodile I ever killed (I was in my twenties then) I never used a trap or a weapon. I did everything with my hands... Even the second ultimate beast the wild boars.
<zorz> go argue in jungle!!!
<SiFuh> zorz: I'd love her to come jungle camping with us. I reckon she'd love it.
<SiFuh> She wants raw meat, we bring her raw meat and then lives in the raw wilderness
<SiFuh> zorz: remiliascarlet "I just ate a raw piece of dead cow flesh and I feel good" "Cool! Come jungle and eat a raw dead monkey you killed and munch on that. Chomp away. Ignore the constant rain and the mud up your legs"
<SiFuh> zorz: I wonder but I to be honest I think she could.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet "I can't walk" "Yeah you go chaffing" "Here, you take this, go bush, take your nickers off and rub this shit around your chitsu, then come back"
<SiFuh> zorz: I watched a campsite try to make fire. 3 hours. Kept going out.
<SiFuh> I made a fire and it burned all night and day in less than a minute
<SiFuh> My wife was fucking proud and so were the kids
<SiFuh> Neigbour who wasn't our friend was shocked too. I said "Three is you key, food to eat, oxgen to breath and heat to keep it alive"
<SiFuh> Not to mention they asked me for my firewood given to me from the owner of the campsite and they stole all and left me with two.
<SiFuh> My fire ran on 4 logs all night and day
<SiFuh> They took about 20 logs
<zorz> 4.... and water... to turn it off :P
<zorz> SiFuh: i am absorved in game theory nash equilibrium