<SiFuh>
farkuhar: It is not practically useless. I can run it without F keys.
<SiFuh>
Use escape and numbers. So Escape and 0 = F10
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Many programs that use modern functions are designed to work without them as well.
<SiFuh>
Okay out of here. Renovations again
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I'm SiFuh and I have returneth
<SiFuh>
Yes farkuhar Same as irssi same as that old CD player program. I can't remember the name. They have Function keys encoded into it but you can bypass them with other keys for NON-Standard keyboards.
<SiFuh>
ukky: Send a photo of the keyboard.
<SiFuh>
Tonight, I will drill holes into my ceiling
<SiFuh>
4 holes
<SiFuh>
1 in stairwell, 1 in wife's room, 1 in my room and a large hole above the new cupboards
<SiFuh>
Stairwell is the dangerous one. Because if I fall I fall 3 stories onto concrete and tiles so wife needs to be there
<SiFuh>
No have a harness yet.
<SiFuh>
Can't abseil and there are not rock climbing shops here.
<SiFuh>
I already bought the 3M harness but have no ascenders, thimble, figure of eight or dynamic and static rope
<SiFuh>
And I did manage to order two lanyards
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: thanks for the tip. With Escape and numbers I was able to accomplish the task for which I originally opened mc. I might eventually use ~/.Xmodmap to remap the XF86{Back,Forward,Reload,...,Sleep} keys anyway, but for now the Escape trick is good enough.
<farkuhar>
The other option would have been to override mc.keymap with a new file in ~/.config/mc, but that workaround would have to be repeated for each program that uses Function keys. Remapping the keyboard itself would avoid all these per-program workarounds.
<farkuhar>
I notice that mc populates /usr/share/mc/syntax/ to make its built-in editor aware of popular formats. It's amusing that there's a syntax file for Arch PKGBUILDs, but jue didn't write one for CRUX Pkgfiles (to fill in an obvious gap in the mc port).
<farkuhar>
Although I'm not sure how many mc users actually prefer the built-in editor, rather than spawning an external editor whose syntax-highlighting capabilities are governed by configs outside /usr/share/mc/. If spawning an external editor is more common, then there's less reason for jue to write a CRUX syntax file for the built-in mc editor.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Or you can just get use to using the old Esc instead of Modifer or F keys. Like we do in Emacs, MC, some player, IRSSI
<SiFuh>
Get use to it is what I'd do. Since it is pretty close to universal anyway
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Doesn't your MC have mouse action?
<SiFuh>
I can click mine like a GUI
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: mouse actions don't work in my current terminal emulator. Clicking on the menu just puts garbage characters on the input line.
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<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Okay understand.
<SiFuh>
I smell like a pet pig's pig's diaper left in a septic tanks. Been in the ceiling all night yelling at the wife.
<SiFuh>
ukky: farkuhar: dlcusa: "Woman go to first hole" "Which hole?" "The first one" I don't know which is first one" "The first one I drilled" "Show me" climb through ceiling and like spiderman "You want to spider man kiss me?" "No" "That hole. That is the first one" "Oh why didn't you say" "Farrrrkkkk you hard" Hahahaha
<SiFuh>
Your name farkuhar if used in a different way like a family joke now.
<SiFuh>
if/is*
<SiFuh>
All cables are threaded and layed. Now comes the modification of cupboards. To make the cables easy to pull out and put back.
<SiFuh>
Tomorrow.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Chinese worker was whistling a song and I bird whilsted and he stoped looked up at me and says "WAHHH WOAH. How?" Hahahahaha
<SiFuh>
I said "Suck in and not blow out. Use your tongue and mouth." He says "My tongue can't" I said "I know, you have a Chinese tongue" Then they all laugh "Chinese tongue hahahaha" Then he hands me the phone and says "Teach"
<SiFuh>
I said "I lived alone in the jungle and forest in Australia two years. I slept in the trees when it didn't rain. Birds became my friends. I learned their calls. As for Chinese, you genetically and inherentlly have a smaller tongue because when you speak your tongue never touches your teeth or passes them. So that is why it is difficult to roll you "R"s"
<SiFuh>
Then he starts pronouncing many of the characters and looks at me and says "You are right!"
<farkuhar>
Heh, jaeger's reply to ppetrov^ almost looks like valid input to bc (the Reverse Polish Notation CLI calculator), except that in the context of that conversation it's obviously an excerpt from the crontab entry that ppetrov^ asked about.
<farkuhar>
Actually, the back-to-back operators * and / would require three numbers to be on the stack, not the one number that appears before those operators in jaeger's reply. So to be considered valid input for bc, "15 */6 * * *" would have to be preceded by at least two more numbers, unless bc has a fallback mechanism to reuse the last-popped value when the stack is empty.
<farkuhar>
s/bc/dc/g
<farkuhar>
Heh, I obviously don't call either of those programs often enough to distinguish between them. In CRUX they're provided by the same port rather than as two separate ports that share the same source. It's not as if there's only one binary and the other program is a symlink (like how /usr/bin/pkgadd is able to provide also pkgrm and pkginfo). They are in fact two distinct binaries (/usr/bin/bc and /usr/bin/dc).
<farkuhar>
The configure script doesn't offer an easy way to build only one of the binaries, though. There aren't separate Makefile targets for "bc" and "dc", you have to build both of them with `make all`. So even with a shared distfiles directory, it would involve duplicated effort to disentangle those two binaries into separate ports (one port doing `rm $PKG/usr/bin/dc` and the other port doing `rm $PKG/usr/bin/bc`).
<farkuhar>
Arch made an interesting choice with their PKGBUILD, to destroy the one-to-one relationship between ports and built packages. From one PKGBUILD, you can generate multiple packages, just by being more selective about which files from $PKG get added to each tarball. With CRUX you can't split the contents of $PKG into separate tarballs.
<ukky>
SiFuh: it is external USB keyboard. You might thought it is 104-key laptop keyboard, which probably doesn't exist.