01:57 <Wanda[cis]> so on one paw, it's a well known fact that all FPGA vendors are in bed with each other

01:58 <Wanda[cis]> on the other paw, nothing could prepare me for looking at a Lattice SCM bitstream and seeing the same bitstream format as Xilinx XC2000.

02:00 <Wanda[cis]> this thing has proper SERDES. it's large enough to overflow the 24-bit length field in the bitstream header of that ancient format. it's from a different vendor. and it's using the same format as the very first FPGA ever built.

11:28 <gatecat[m]> I guess that stems from AT&T originally making Xilinx-compatible parts

11:28 <Wanda[cis]> oh, yes

11:28 <Wanda[cis]> ECP5 is a straight-line descendant of XC2000, after all

18:46 <vancz> you could write so much stuff to read