09:09 <ikonia> hello Ruby users, My problem is not actually a ruby problem, a request for advice on how to manage a Ruby environment issue on a mac. My mac has Ruby 2.6.10 installed as part of it's OS, my problem is using Zed editor it wants a gem that depends on Ruby 2.7. I don't want to change the mac OS installed version (and can't real world) however I would like to install a later version of ruby in a protected

09:09 <ikonia> environment (such as venv) and then if possible allow Zen editor to use that virutal environment to resolve it's dependencies

09:09 <ikonia> is this possible real world ?

09:41 <testone> ikonia: if macosx still work in a 'unix way', you can use one of: rbenv, chroot, asdf, <others I don't remember>

09:41 <testone> they make you install more versions of ruby (for asdf, not only of ruby) and switch between them with simple commands

09:41 <testone> s/chroot/chruby/

09:44 <testone> it seems you can install any of those in mac

09:44 <testone> one of the <others I don't remember> is: RVM

09:46 <testone> [using brew, macports and other pkg managers for macosx]

09:47 <testone> ikonia: an example guide --> https://www.moncefbelyamani.com/the-definitive-guide-to-installing-ruby-gems-on-a-mac/

09:47 <testone> only this part is relevant --> https://www.moncefbelyamani.com/the-definitive-guide-to-installing-ruby-gems-on-a-mac/#install-ruby-with-a-version-manager-best-option

10:02 <ikonia> testone: thanks,

11:19 <moo> does it matter from performance standpoint if i do arr.pop or arr.shift (on huge arrays)?

11:20 <moo> in my case whether i get last or first element doesn't matter so

11:24 <kjetilho> why not iterate over it without changing the object at all? I'd expect that to be fastest.

11:25 <moo> oh it's a queue where its fed inputs and bunch of threads are consuming them

11:26 <kjetilho> ok, ideally it will never become a huge backlog, then

11:26 <moo> i would think pop will be faster but tbh trying to test it i see no difference

11:26 <kjetilho> I think what you have to worry about is how effective GC is for the different methods. I don't have any insight, unfortunately.

11:26 <kjetilho> but the actual object on the queue will probably dominate anyway

11:38 <nakilon> ikonia: you are not supposed to change the default macOS ruby or even install gems

11:38 <nakilon> it was right that was said above, that you need a ruby version manager, such as rbenv

11:39 <nakilon> it will install everything in your user space

12:37 <ikonia> nakilon: that's exactly the point, I don't want to touch system ruby, but I do want a local updated version, that I can somehow force zed text editor to use, rather than system ruby

14:34 <moo> Thread::Queue#pop "If the queue is empty, the calling thread is suspended until data is pushed onto the queue. " WOW i was going so crazy here trying to debug wtf is happening

15:09 <elmetah> I can 'magine 16 good "Rubies" today, but is it good-good to 'magine also do?

15:10 <elmetah> Todays languages condense 99 non-directories to count to siente

15:12 <elmetah> Good bye

15:20 <havenwood> moo: Just be sure to `queue.pop(true)` rather than `queue.pop unless empty?` to avoid a race. :)

18:19 <moo> havenwood each of my threads had: while foo = queue.pop ; .... :D