03:25 <ih8u> o0x1eef: what's the point of bringing ai into this?

03:26 <ih8u> or i guess redis does caching?

03:26 <ih8u> definitely overkill for my humble server

03:27 <ih8u> we have a not insignificant amount of users, but we're not twitter-scale

03:28 <ih8u> right now we're serving our customers comfortably with a single good, old-fashioned vm behind an apache reverse proxy

03:29 <ih8u> if we ever get twitter-scale, the people whom i sell to can deal with the fallout from that

03:30 <ih8u> though i am looking into setting up rack attack, because we're just big enough to get an uncomfortable amount of attention from bad actors

03:30 <ih8u> even got ddos'ed once for lord-knows-what reason

03:31 <ih8u> anyway, if anyone's got tips for setting up rack attack (or similar) with roda, i would be very grateful

03:32 <ih8u> i've only found one resource about that specific use case, but it's more like that dude documenting his very specific setup which, aside from also including roda somewhere in the chain, does not resemble my situation at all, so his rack attack setup makes no sense to me as someone who's never used it before

03:45 <o0x1eef> Sidekiq is a library :) It lets you write a job as a class, and when you schedule the the job to run, it populates a redis queue with the class name, and any args you provided. Then a separate, dedicated process reads from the queue and actually executes the worker. Variations of this are popular in ruby web apps generally, even small ones.

03:46 <o0x1eef> For example, this is how we could implement polling with some task that will run for a long time.

04:12 <ih8u> am i missing something or is redis a commercial product?

04:21 <ih8u> also, can anyone familiar with unpoly tell me how to define `up-params` so they actually work?

04:28 <ih8u> omg this is so stupid

04:28 <ih8u> this is what we get when we try to cram "applications" into static text documents

04:28 <ih8u> this is why web dev sucks

04:29 <ih8u> why on earth is the poll repeatedly calling the original url the view is loaded from if i specifically told it to poll a different path?

04:30 <ih8u> the path i defined is being called, but why is the original url also being called repeatedly?

04:30 <ih8u> so stupid

04:45 <ih8u> alright, that one's on me

04:45 <ih8u> still can't get up-poll's up-params to show up in the request, though

07:04 <mikko> how come .zip(1..) is so much slower than .with_index and doing +1 inside the loop every time

07:13 <mikko> https://bpa.st/MZMQ

09:27 <o0x1eef> Redis is a corporate company nowadays, but it started as a open source hobby project and it recently returned to an open source license (after a brief perioid where the license was changed and a ton of negative drama followed)

10:26 <havenwood> mikko: The zip version is doing an intermediary Array.

10:26 <havenwood> mikko: An aside, but should be `0..` or `index(1)` to be the same.

10:27 <havenwood> mikko: I suspect if you `with_index(1).to_a` it'll be much closer speed and memory.

10:27 <havenwood> The to_a is the expensive bit.

10:29 <havenwood> Though benchmarking it, still faster to with_index with a to_a. Optimized operation without needing to iterate.

10:30 <havenwood> Closes some of the gap.

19:01 <The_Camel_> so warm.

19:01 <The_Camel_> 26 degrees C.

19:01 <The_Camel_> can't focus or do shit.

19:03 <weaksauce_> 78 f is a nice day

19:03 <weaksauce_> people be weak

19:08 <The_Camel_> weaksauce_, I grew up half my life in 20-25-35 degrees, but the rest of my childhood/teenhood life was in an area where 13-15 degrees is the norm.

19:08 <The_Camel_> weaksauce_, my body has adapted to prefer the cold now.

19:11 <The_Camel_> weaksauce_, https://i.imgur.com/41RvKnS.png

19:11 <The_Camel_> this is why I said I needed 10-15TB of data....

19:15 <weaksauce_> that's a lot of stuff

19:32 <The_Camel_> weaksauce_, yeah, I save what generally "shouldn't" be on the internet free.

19:32 <The_Camel_> weaksauce_, because one day it will not be anymore :P

19:32 <The_Camel_> weaksauce_, I'd save more but there's also a level of sanity limit

19:32 <The_Camel_> so

19:33 <The_Camel_> weaksauce_, I prefer/try to consume the media more than store it. that way it's consumed rather than hoarded.

19:33 <The_Camel_> weaksauce_, time is always the problem though.

19:33 <The_Camel_> need more of it.

21:11 <The_Camel_> 5 more freaking UI pages to make. UGH.

21:12 <The_Camel_> that's 5 more days of work.

23:03 <mikko> havenwood: oh cool, i didn't realize you can give #with_index a starting index, that's why i had the +1 inside the block

23:06 <mikko> it's surprising to me that the #zip does an intermediate array though