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<GrahamNorth> @markrutland Thanks for the email
<GrahamNorth> I'm porting the ARM(32) XIP code from head.S and vmlinux.lds.S
<GrahamNorth> Just wondering if anyone has experience with the page table set up ASM in aarch64?
<mrutland> A bunch of us do; but we're going to dip into here intermittently, so it's best to ask specific questions and then wait
<GrahamNorth> I'm still trying to navigate all the macros in vmlinux.lds.S :)
<GrahamNorth> I guess my main question is around MMU: Is it better to disable the MMU for XIP or to set up p->v mappings for the kernel/ro-data in ROM?
<bjdooks> a lot of systems having no mmu also means no data-cache available which means your performance may suck
<GrahamNorth> I think the 2 uses for XIP are embedded and VMs.
<GrahamNorth> I assume no-MMU on embedded, but virtual servers will have MMU
<GrahamNorth> @bjdooks Yeah assuming small footprint will have small RAM as well.
<bjdooks> back in the old arm920 days having no data cache lost you 75% or so of your memory speed
<GrahamNorth> :)
<GrahamNorth> I mean I'm thinking just disable MMU and take the hit for now.
<GrahamNorth> I think that's what they did to develop the ARM32
<mrutland> GrahamNorth: on arm64 you *must* have the MMU on for things like atomics to work
<mrutland> ... and there's no nommu support code for arm64; lots of basic things wouldn't work
<GrahamNorth> Hmm yeah I was thinking that as well.
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<GrahamNorth> So I need to configure the MMU to map p->v for the Flash ROM so the kernel/ro-data can be addressed
<GrahamNorth> Using ARM32 as a template is not going to work
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<grahamn> @cmarinas I found your presentation LinuxCon North America 2012 #
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<grahamn> errr
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<grahamn> it's this phone client working?
<grahamn> *is
<CounterPillow> grahamn: why yes, but typing "@" before usernames isn't really a thing you do on IRC.
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