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<cow_2001>
how do i use a package?
<cow_2001>
i have installed file-attributes. how do i use it?
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<mwnaylor>
Looking for some emacs/sly experience. Do we have to put a sticker on *every* s-exp we want to inspect? I'm used to elisp and cider (for Clojure) that let my intrument a high level s-expr and then step into it once the debugger halts execution.
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<uhuh>
cow_2001: did you do ,(ql:quickload :file-attributes)? That should load in the system.
<ixelp>
(ql:quickload :file-attributes) ERROR: There is no package named "QL" .
<uhuh>
oh oops did the comma evaluate things? Thought it was the other way around
<uhuh>
mwnaylor: either use the sly-stepper contrib to auto-sticker everything, or use (step ...) instead
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<mwnaylor>
uhuh: is there a package for that or do I have to download/clone and install?
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<uhuh>
sly-stepper is on github, step is a part of the language
<uhuh>
if you want to pause execution step is good, stickers let the code run and you get to inspect after/while the code is running
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<mwnaylor>
Found it; it has installation instructions.
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<cow_2001>
uhuh: hmmmmm
<cow_2001>
will read on ql:quickload
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<cow_2001>
no ql: stuff in my sly
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<cow_2001>
oh, and i'm using guix :|
<uhuh>
Did you install quicklisp? There are other ways of loading/installing systems but that's the defacto "package manager" currently
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<|3b|>
cow_2001: first, terminology (since everyone else ended up using different names for things than CL): in CL, a "package" is a language construct, mapping strings in source code text to symbols in CL, similar to what is more commonly called a "namespace" these days
<|3b|>
and CL has an operation on packages called "use", which makes symbols from one package visible in another
<|3b|>
i'm assuming that isn't what you meant though, since you mention installing. We usually call the things you would install a "system", usually composed of one or more source files and a file describing the contents of the system and how to load it
<|3b|>
ASDF is currently the most popular way to load systems, though there are a few others
<|3b|>
(asdf:load-system 'file-attributes) should load it if it is installed somewhere asdf can find it
<|3b|>
quicklisp (aka ql) is a popular wrapper over ASDF that adds the ability to automatically download things it knows about when ASDF can't find them (along with some other conveniences)
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<cow_2001>
hmm.. thank you |3b|!
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<g-gundam>
(i needed that clarification too. thanks.)
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