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<Vijay> Can someone tell me what "." (dot) does in a list? Like this '(1 2 . a)
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<edgar-rft> in short: an proper list like '(1 2) == '(1 . ( 2 . nil)) while a dotted list like '(1 2 . a) == (1 . (2 . a))
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<edgar-rft> in code: (cons 1 (cons 2 nil)) => (1 2) while (cons 1 (cons 2 'a)) => (1 2 . a)
<edgar-rft> a "dotted" list indicates that the cdr of the last cell is not nil
<beach> edgar-rft: Great explanation! I hope Vijay got it.
<beach> Vijay: It is often much clearer if you draw the box diagrams for each case.
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<Vijay> Thank you very much edgar-rft! Is there another place for dot in the vein of list expansion? Ex: (setf x '(1 2 3))  then  '(1 2 . x)
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<Vijay> So edgar-rft, beach;  would you say the dot is an alias for cons within a list?
<bike> I'm not sure what you're asking. how is setf related?
<bike> it's not really an alias for a function, it's just a textual indication of the structure
<beach> Vijay: Yes, the dot is also called the "consing dot".
<Vijay> Super! Clear now beach!
<Vijay> Thank you
<beach> Great!
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<beach> That's why ,'(1 . (2 . nil)) is the same as ,'(1 2)
<beach> Hmm, ixelp did not like that.
<beach> ,(progn '(1 . (2 . nil)))
<ixelp> => (1 2)
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<g-gundam> ,(uiop:getcwd)
<ixelp> (uiop:getcwd) ERROR: There is no package named "UIOP" .
<g-gundam> ,(sb-ext:get-time-of-day)
<ixelp> ERROR: There is no package named "SB-EXT" .
<g-gundam> ,(list-all-packages)
<ixelp> (list-all-packages) => (#<Package "COMMON-LISP-USER"> #<Package "OPENMCL-SOCKET"> #<Package "OPENMCL-MOP"> #<Package "ANSI-LOOP"> #<Package "SwinkIO/0"> #<Package "SWINK"> #<Package "INSPECTOR"> #<Package "ARCH"> #<Package "GRAY"> #<Package "COMMON-LISP"> #<Package "CCL"> #<Package "KEYWORD"> #<Package "ARM"> #<Package "ARM-LINUX">)
<g-gundam> I'm curious about ixelp and how it creates a sandboxed CL environment. Does anyone know?
<gilberth> It always surprises me when people resort to funny libraries or packages to do what is covered by ANSI-CL: ,(values (get-universal-time) (truename ""))
<ixelp> (values (get-universal-time) (truename "")) => 3957182747; #P"/"
<g-gundam> gilberth: I'm a noob in CL.
<g-gundam> What I was curious about was where ixelp's boundaries were.
<gilberth> Fair enough. The physical boundary is a serial connection to some other host.
<edgar-rft> it's 3957182747 o'clock in the universe
<gilberth> ,(decode-universal-time (get-universal-time))
<ixelp> => 58; 40; 17; 25; 5; 2025; 6; NIL; 0
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