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<MarchHare> wut?
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<Jari--> morning all from Jyväskylä
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<Ermine> heat: wait, is there only kernel-source in Kernel:HEAD?
<Ermine> TIL i have kernel source /usr/src
<Ermine> OPENSUSE LOVES UNIX
<nikolar> good morning Jari-- from way south
<heat> Ermine: wat
<heat> kernel-default 6.17 is a binary package
<nikolar> heat: he found out he had linux source on his machine
<heat> Maybe it wasn't fully built yet
<Ermine> hm, figured this out
<Ermine> installing it as we speak
<Ermine> so far so good
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<heat> huh that /usr/src directory only holds build files
<heat> Makefile + Kconfig
<heat> weird
<kof673> bsd uses /usr/src for base system and kernel ...turning bsd j/k
<heat> man, insults this early? smh
<nikolar> hey, it's suse after all
<zid> heat when are we making a better open desktop standard or whatever it is that controls this
<zid> with /kernal
<kof673> i'm all in favor...metaland demands full sources at all times lol
<kof673> how else can you reflect properly
<heat> i don't know
<zid> /kernal/src
<zid> /kernal/stats/ecc_errors
<nikolar> do you want to have the source shipped with the kernel :P
<heat> yes
<zid> oh like gzconfig but the entire source?
<heat> more linux is always better
<zid> that'd work
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<zid> can we slip a tcc -> gcc 4 -> gcc 8 boostrap in there too?
<heat> there's already a similar thing for kernel headers
<nikolar> zid: i think you need a couple more steps there
<heat> /proc/kheaders.tar.xz
<zid> no?
<zid> that's literally the bootstrap process for gcc
<nikolar> how do you get a tcc
<zid> build it at kernel build time and include the binary
<nikolar> kek
<zid> /kernal/module/tcc.ko
<nikolar> why make it a module
<nikolar> so it runs in kernel space?
<zid> good point, let's build in it, with no M option
<zid> so we can kexec a source dir
<nikolar> kek
<Ermine> heat: i have full source in /usr/src
<heat> you sure?
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<Ermine> yes
<nikolar> no
<heat> ok
<heat> nikolar get tumbleweed
<nikolar> why
<heat> we're daily driving -rc1
<heat> i picked the config too
<nikolar> can i get a rootfs
<heat> yeah just install it
<heat> it defaults to btrfs which i know you like
<nikolar> i do not
<nikolar> also i asked for a rootfs tarball :/
<Ermine> heat: run linux-next
<heat> no
<heat> i'm also on -rc1
<heat> seems to work
<heat> yay
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<Ermine> surprisingly stable
<bslsk05> ​'Repairing a Sun SPARCstation IPX by designing something new' by The Parallel Port
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<zid> Someone asked why their windows bluescreened
<zid> I got the minidump
<zid> clear cpuz -> hal -> pci -> pagefault stacktrace
<zid> told them cpuz caused it, "What's cpuz?"
<zid> The fuck
<pog> wh
<heat> wallhack
<pog> i'll wallhack you
<zid> you don't need to wallhack heat
<zid> he's got a head like a melon
<zid> sniper's dream we call him
<pog> heh melonhead
<pog> nice head did you grow it in a melon field
<pog> what school did you go to, carnegie melon univesity?
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<ZetItUp> i love waking up to screaming kids outside... "WUUUUEEEEEHHH BUT I WANTED TO SIT NEXT TO HIM!", i wish i had those issues
<nikolar> You can always have those issues!
* Ermine gives pog a piece of cheese
* pog is fascinated
<Ermine> how are you pog
<pog> i'm ok how you
<Ermine> i'm fine too
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