<NickH>
LilianSharklord: easist way is to just use upstream Zig binary
<gbrlsnchs>
I'm playing with rwm, trying to make windows have the same size of the output, but it ends up with a small black gap at the right and bottom... I propose 2560x1080 as dimensions and the dimensions handler returns 2556x1071 for the window. Am I missing something...? Running rwm nested fullscreen, for context.
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<ifreund>
gbrlsnchs: you may need to tell the window that it is tiled or fullscreen to get it to repect the exact dimensions you propose
<ifreund>
for example, foot will choose sizes that are an exact multiple of the terminal cell size if you don't
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<gbrlsnchs>
ifreund: gotcha, that makes sense! thx... would that mean the window is "floating", in this case?
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<leon-p>
gbrlsnchs: rwm has no concept of "floating"
<leon-p>
the tiled state ifreund was talking about is from xdg-shell, it is meant to indicate to the client that it's windows edge(s) are "attached" to something, f.e. like when you drag a window to a screen edge on a traditional desktop environment and it resizes to half the screen
<ifreund>
I don't think it would be an incorrect mental model to think of windows as floating by default
<ifreund>
floating is really a concept for the window manager though and doesn't exist on the protocol level
<ifreund>
you can also very much tell windows that they are tiled while not actually positioning them in a tiled layout
<TheAnachron>
i just thought how interesting it would be to have a WM that lets you create views and each view basically lets you put Windows however you like (floating, stacking, combined) by dragging the Windows from a list (or grid). A window can be shown in 1:n views. (or simply not shown)
<TheAnachron>
That way I can have one view with my IDE fullscreen and another as split-view with terminal and yet another with a video floating and just switch views.
<TheAnachron>
One could also circle between different views of current active window by a key combination.
<TheAnachron>
Would that be something that rwm could offer?
<ifreund>
TheAnachron: as long as you're not trying to have multiple copies of the same window visible at the same time you can place windows however you like
<ifreund>
the rwm protocol doesn't restrict window management policy at all
<TheAnachron>
Okay, that sounds good. It will probably require some complicated logic to get it working on multi monitor setups
<ifreund>
the whole point of the rwm protocol is that you can write and use that complicated logic yourself without me having to review/merge your code :D
<gbrlsnchs>
thank you folks, I still have a lot to learn but that's very clarifying and was indeed the cause
<TheAnachron>
ifreund: fair enough. So you're saying me displaying the same view on two different monitors would not be possible , due to them having different ratlos and a window cannot be displayed twice?
<ifreund>
TheAnachron: yep
<TheAnachron>
Is that a wayland or rwm limitation?
<leon-p>
wlroots scenegraph, probably
<leon-p>
as far as wayland is concerned, the display server can do whatever it wants with the committed buffers, including compositing them multipl times onto the screen
<TheAnachron>
but can they be composited multiple times with different sizes/locations?
<leon-p>
the server basically just gets handed a bitmap, with that it can do whatever. The more interesting bits are telling the client about input for it's window and of course the client will only render the window at one size
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<TheAnachron>
Is there a good wlroots resources to read about its design/limitations?
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<ifreund>
TheAnachron: the client only submits one copy of a window to the server, therefor you can't have multiple copies of the same window rendered at different sizes at the same time
<ifreund>
it's a wayland protocol limitation I'd say
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<ifreund>
TheAnachron: as for wlroots docs, there aren't many aside from doc comments in headers and those are sparse as well.
<ifreund>
to use wlroots effectively you have to be comfortable reading the source code IMO
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<szgy>
question: is swayidle the only wayland idle manager??
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