10:34 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <jevermeister> I just bought a Rock 2F because of the form factor and stumbled upon that post: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/50185-radxa-rock-2f-bookworm-minimal-problems/ and I also found https://www.armbian.com/cf7stdb-entries/rock-2a-download/

10:34 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <jevermeister> However I couldn't find any image to download and the standard ARM64 image doesn't seem to run, i just get a blank screen. The original Radxa image works but it uses a debug kernel, has a lot of wifi debug information in the logs and other fishy stuff

10:34 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <jevermeister> Does anyone know the current status?

11:11 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> the rk3588 depending on the kernel/devicetreeand patch level will be decisive on how it performs

11:12 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> as it stand using the vendor kernel you will get more out of it then the mainline

11:12 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> mainline still needs the npu and some other patches.

11:12 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> Itake it your trying to game on the rock5b

11:13 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> or high end video

11:13 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> are you running plasma or neon

11:13 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> also will be a factor on how well it works

11:14 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> I have also found out for vido playback and best streaming performance from web horium works the best so far

11:15 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> you have to look up thorium raspi

11:15 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> also are you using x11 or you plpaying with wwayland will also be part of performance

11:17 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> if your using mainline are you on 6.12/current or 6.14/edge

11:22 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> thats 3528 chip

11:23 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> same issue as above the3528 has basic support in mainline.

11:26 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> I can say that boards following the board layout the pi does isstupid

11:26 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> weneed more mine/micro atx format . for standard cases and better heatsinks

11:27 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> craming all this stuff on small boards makes the m hotter when they runbecause the lack os place for heat to escape

11:31 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> dont get me wrong having the smallboards is nice but opening the boards up some still helps

11:32 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> micro atx is not a bad formate size

12:01 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> rock-2f is csc, not currently built as far as i'm aware, you can try building an image yourself with `github:armbian/build`, but it may not work

12:02 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> the generic UEFI_ARM64 images only work on standard UEFI boot setups, i.e. EDK2 or a VM

12:12 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <jevermeister> I'll give it a try

12:30 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <dams0869> Hi, I'm currently using KDE Neon with mainline 6.15 (6.12 had a problem recently). For games, I mainly play Hearthstone via Waydoid.

13:37 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> vendor image should work, while standard arm64 no chanches. We haven't add it to the download pages yet. Here are images: https://github.com/armbian/community/releases/tag/25.8.0-trunk.8

14:00 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <jevermeister> Thanks. So the difference between regular armbian builds and the "vendor" images is that those use the vendor provided kernel instead?

14:11 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> kde-is nice but its not ready for full production either

14:11 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> it has some pkg issues

14:11 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> not the best definition. "Armbian regular" exists from users perspective and that is more or less the same for all boards ... Armbian is custom firmware (bootloader, kernel, additional things) that looks like Debian. "Regular" Armbian, if you refferr to generic ARM64 build ... is just image for hardware that is capable of booting via UEFI method. Very little custom hardware is ab <clipped message>

14:11 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> le to process that. For more insights, check https://docs.armbian.com/#what-is-armbian

14:13 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> I am working with the kde-neon guys to fix broken pkgs and fix whats missing. kde-neon work but not ment for everyday driver yet

14:15 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <jevermeister> At least it booted. I get kernel oops during bootup but it continues. Should be fine for now to install some stuff, will replace it with a stable image later on

14:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> what kernel oops you getting

14:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> what board is this

14:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <jevermeister> rock2f 1gb without emmc

14:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> your trying to run kde-neon on 1 gig

14:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> wow

14:17 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> kde is ment for 4 gig or more for normal use

14:17 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <jevermeister> No, I used the minimal image. I want to use it for a 3D printer, it won't run any graphics

14:17 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> ok

14:17 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <jevermeister> https://pastebin.com/ctZ4UjHJ

14:17 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <jevermeister> If you're interested in the kernel oops.

14:18 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> yeah, support here is in early stages, certainly not production ready, but you might have luck

14:19 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <jevermeister> At least much better than the Radxa image which I don't fully trust

17:24 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> Judging from the terrain test, the one that actually matters, you only have 20% perf difference

17:26 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> I had a lot of success with armbian on Rock 2F, everything seems to work, except I don't know how to compile the WiFi kernel driver (it seems to be compiled on official images). Display output with opengl works

17:29 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <human_urostor> Try just ssh-ing to the board connected via ethernet with a fresh image, the default root password is 1234, you can do initial setup from there.