04:40 <SiFuh> farkuhar: He did a complete fresh install but took old configuration files from 3.7 and just copied them over to the 3.8 etc. Didn't even think to check and compare.

12:58 <SiFuh> farkuhar: ukky: dlcusa: zorz_: SiFuh: (Oh that's me) remiliascarlet and others... We need to write a constiution.

12:59 <SiFuh> 1) The users are absolute, they have a say on how it progresses and should be heard and no one can say otherwise. They are the highest authority.

13:00 <SiFuh> Then we provide the pricipals that shall be unchanged

13:00 <SiFuh> And work our way down from there. Something like that.

13:00 <ukky> remiliascarlet: agree, Linux, nor GNU, never followed Unix philosophy. Furthermore, GNU explicitly declares they will never follow Unix philosophy.

13:01 <SiFuh> ukky: Do you think we should push for BSD licensing?

13:01 <ukky> Sorry, wrong channel

13:01 <SiFuh> ukky: She is here. Don't worry

13:02 <ukky> SiFuh: BSD licensing: yes

13:03 <SiFuh> Not a fan of the other licences myself

19:43 <dlcusa> Which UNIX Philosophy? I nominate ESR's: http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/

20:08 <farkuhar> emmett1: The current rc is here https://git.crux.nu/tools/rc/src/branch/master/rc if you want to start writing a POSIX sh version.

21:20 <SiFuh> farkuhar: This is limted

21:22 <SiFuh> farkuhar: Hold on, I have to messare emmett1 because he shuts down swap too early

21:22 <SiFuh> But I want like this to be official

21:23 <SiFuh> And as zorz says the random see should be removed but I think it should be commented out

21:25 <farkuhar> SiFuh: I'm still curious to see what jue does with the open pull request. His initial feedback sounded positive, but he might postpone any changes until he's had a chance to discuss with beerman.

21:26 <SiFuh> I doubt he does jack shit

21:26 <farkuhar> Why? Too concerned about offending beerman?

21:26 <SiFuh> I messaged emmett1 privately and told him that we want his POSIX version but he needs to reorder some shit.

21:27 <SiFuh> farkuhar: I doubt it.

21:27 <SiFuh> I'd like his POSIX version to become official

21:29 <SiFuh> I will discuss with him privately what to move around and what to keep and what to add.

21:29 <SiFuh> Once done, I will ask him to share to all of you to review

21:31 <farkuhar> Why didn't we hear more from jaeger after the rc 2.33 -> 2.34 rewrite, and the Gitea issue that darfo opened? jue at least wrote a reply to darfo's issue #1.

21:39 <SiFuh> farkuhar: Today the nephew was showing off the RUBIX's cube. Father says his son ius a genious. I watched and said to the father your son is fucking idiot. And he is lying to you. If he was genious he'd be able speak English.

21:39 <SiFuh> So I showed his father the patterns that his son had done to solve the RUBIX's cube.

21:40 <SiFuh> Hahahaha the war began :-) And I was a proud spectator.