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<the_oz_> yoo think yur wicked smaht?
<the_oz_> how yoo liek DEM apples eh?
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<vdamewood> Hi, humans, cats, bots, and crickets.
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<sortie> uh does anyone know where to find the EFI File System specification? I'm trying to find out how it differs, if any, from the normal FAT filesystem
<sortie> The UEFI spec is all like "oh you can just download it from where you got this specification" and then they don't seem to publish it
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<Mutabah> sortie: Isn't it explicitly just FAT?
<sortie> Mutabah: No they technically state it's the EFI File System which is a version of FAT32 frozen in time
<sortie> Just trying to do my due diligence and figure out if it's perhaps subtly different and what features are supported
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<Mutabah> Ah
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<GeDaMo> sortie: is this it? https://uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/UEFI%202_5.pdf#page=585 "12.3 File System Format"
<sortie> That link is a 404 for me?
<GeDaMo> Maybe your browser doesn't like the # ? https://uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/UEFI%202_5.pdf
<sortie> Doesn't even work without. Are you signed in?
<GeDaMo> Nope
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<sortie> Aha it's a hexchat bug
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<sortie> GeDaMo: Nope that's not what I'm looking for. But it is the location where I saw the strange "For more information about the EFI file system and file image format, visit the web site from which this document was obtained." sentence which I'm trying to do
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<Ermine> this was in the references section
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<heat> oh TIL about RDMSRLIST, WRMSRLIST and WRMSRNS
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<rupture3> (im dumb AF, are they new instructions for amd64?)
<heat> relatively new yeah
<rupture3> :3
<zid`> felix doesn't have them
<zid`> so they don't exist
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<nikolar> what they do
<heat> read a list of msrs, write a list of msrs
<heat> and do a non-serialized msr write
<heat> which is funny because some MSR writes are already non-serialized
<zid`> nikolar: nothing because they don't exist, don't listen to h is propaganda
<nikolar> kek
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<heat> if they don't exist why is wrmsrns in the FRED codepath
<heat> checkmate
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<zid`> fred doesn't exist either though
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<nikolar> x86s doesn't exist either!
<nikolar> for realsies!
<zid`> if amd64 is so good when are we getting amd65
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<kof673> cc65 for amd65
<heat> amd69
<heat> funny sex number upvote
<kof673> you can make a cc65 alive joke with the rob nes robot thing too
<zid`> we need to quickly start getting new isa versions then
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<zid`> so that we can get to amd42069
<zid`> with the xXx extension
* kof673 sets hourglass until someone makes a modern nes ai-robot accessory
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<Ermine> also WEED extension
<nikolar> which one is that
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<Ermine> should happen in amd420
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<mcrod> allergies suck
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<zid`> have you considered getting a pet tape worm?
<zid`> I hear they work wonders
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<mcrod> yes
<mcrod> i have
<mcrod> zyrtec doesn’t work well for this shit