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<heat> Ermine: ah beautiful, looks shite
<heat> old SUSE kernels also have a similar crappy hack to help avoid livelock
<heat> and we dropped it because it sucks
<heat> thankfully mglru has an anti-thrashing knob you can play around with
<Ermine> mm people tried to explain shiteness of this patch to the author, but he decided that all mm people are idiots
<Ermine> klassik
<heat> it's easy to not think it's shite
<heat> particularly if it solves a particular problem
<heat> but at the end of the day these kinds of configurable hard limits are the fuckiest thing ever
<heat> > outsources reponsibility to admins who will have hard time to know the proper value for those knobs effectivelly pushing them towards all sorts of cargo cult
<heat> fuckin this x100
<Ermine> yea
<heat> for instance there are many many many many people doing drop_caches every N minutes or N hours or whatever
<heat> because google (search, not the company) said so
<heat> chatgpt now i guess, get on with the times grandpa
<Ermine> this is what people do with cryptic tunables
<nikolar> > Ermine | mm people tried to explain shiteness of this patch to the author, but he decided that all mm people are idiots
<nikolar> i mean heat is an mm people so it checks out
<heat> mm person
<nikolar> it's called a joke
<heat> L ratio cope seethe
<heat> it's grammar
<mjg> Hmm. I wonder if this will noticeably help m68k. It currently has to make an obscene number of syscalls due to a shortage of registers.
<mjg> phoronix strikes again
<mjg> this time about some depessimization of syscall return
<heat> lol
<heat> i've been seeing a lot of flight simulator vids lately
<heat> and these guys are actual pilots doing fake piloting on the side
<heat> it's like working on a real kernel as a job, and doing a fake kernel on the side lol
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<nikolar> heat: or verstappen playing racing simulators when he's not racing in real life
<heat> yeah
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<Ermine> i was playing fsx for a while
<nikolar> fsx?
<heat> flight simulator
<Ermine> microsoft flight simulator x
<heat> OR fsx the filesystem stressing tool
<heat> who knows
<heat> from 0 to 10 how much do you like truncating
<nikolar> who knows indeed
<nikolar> heat: truncating what
<nikolar> how
<heat> files
<heat> with system calls
<nikolar> like the truncate syscall?
<heat> truncate, ftruncate
<heat> O_TRUNC!
<nikolar> what's so controversial about it kek
<Ermine> phew, i've repaired this cluster, it should work now
<heat> nothing?
<heat> don't forget fallocate too
<heat> well i guess the joke isn't very funny but fsx does a lot of operations randomly on a file
<heat> and truncate is one of the big ones
<heat> the xfstests fsx is pimped out and supports a lot of linux specific flags and syscalls
<heat> i should take it one day
<mjg> do you have enough registers
<heat> sir, i don't support m68k
<mjg> rm -r onyx
<mjg> wrong window
<heat> x86 has 86 registers so should be fine
<mjg> i thought m68k has 68k?
<mjg> do you need like 128k?
<heat> yeah but 67999 are reserved for address registers
<mjg> motorola 90210 would be the sweet spot
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<Ermine> 90209 registers?
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<kof673> person is roman law. america had we the people once upon a time :D
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