<GaryM_>
Yes, and modem does work with postmarketos.
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<kiva>
it seems that pinephone/20250727-daedalus has multiple issues (not tested my self), but inky find screenrotation problem(and solution for that), and GaryM with ofono..so what is the last daedalus image that has no ofono problem, and my chimaera installation (very old and upgraded) has rendered to crash Sphone Dialer.
<kiva>
I checked that I have used pinephone/20240324 image to calls and sms.
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<kiva>
I checked that I have received last time 2025.03.10 SMS to pinephone, but I have used after that N900 with Maemo5, because MMS. So I do not know when ofono has stopped to work.
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<Wizzup>
so it's not installed by leste-config or what?
<Wizzup>
strange
<GaryM_>
kiva: thanks, ran iio-sensor-proxy and it works.
<kiva>
GaryM: thanks for you testing pp with that modem firmware, I have keeped that the original.
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<fiftydinar>
When ethernet is detected, dhcpclient make boot long & is stuck on DHCPDISCOVER until it finally fails, because ethernet cable is not plugged in.
<fiftydinar>
I tried installing 'ifupdown-extra', which contains scripts like /etc/network/if-up.d/00check-network-cable, but it didn't work
<fiftydinar>
You mostly test this on mobile phones, where ethernet port is not present, but I think this bug would be nice to fix, just trying to see how
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<Wizzup>
@fiftydinar, yes, we should fix that I think
<Wizzup>
@fiftydinar - I think this is just a matter of changing /etc/network/interfaces and removing the auto entry for eth0
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<fiftydinar>
allow-hotplug is already set for eth0
<Wizzup>
@fiftydinar yes but I think this is why it tries to set it up
<Wizzup>
what we really need to do is set up an icd2 module for eth0, and then we can disable this
<Wizzup>
but most mobile devices (as you mentioned) don't have a wired iface so it doesn't hurt that much
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: is it ok to use webkit2gtk or it is better to use
<freemangordon>
QWebView
<freemangordon>
this is for my telepathy-facebook
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<fiftydinar>
freemangordon: I think that QWebView is better, as it's like a Chromium Webview, which is more compatible in web standards compared to GTK's WebKit.
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<freemangordon>
fiftydinar: ok, but all I want is to show the 2fa page of m.facebook.com
<freemangordon>
and given that rest of the project is glib...
<freemangordon>
hmm, ok, facebook answers for us, it somehow detects webkit as non-android browser :)
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: maybe whatever jib uses
<Wizzup>
although I guess you're on gtk2 so we can't share that in any case
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: can't you just open our browser for the 2fa page?
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<kiva>
freemangordon: it is good thing, we do not want show as android browser..we want show as non android browser.
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<arno11>
freemangordon: @webkit as non-andro browser, is it not just a question of user-agent ?
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<kiva>
it's time stamp is earlier than chat about it, but is there different timezone?
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<freemangordon>
arno11: no, they somehow detect it is webkit, no matter the user agent
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<kiva>
maybe there is: if cannot read userdata then device is not android :)
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<freemangordon>
no, they are fine with QWebView
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: do we support google authenticator or something?
<sicelo>
we do have an authenticator (otp) application. but maybe you're asking something different?
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<kiva>
I just start wondering..been anonymous is the best security..2 step authentication make you visible (it is like walking with showing your id on streets)
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<kiva>
anyway do not listen to me in this place. Some people want that feature anyway.
<sicelo>
at least i didn't even understand any of what you said :-)
<kiva>
good :D
<freemangordon>
sicelo: facebook can do 2fa with google authenticator and I wonder if we have compatible application
<saeed>
hi :-)
<sicelo>
yes, maeotp. i used that for my facebook account
<sicelo>
(and all other 2fa enabled accounts that i have)
<saeed>
is there is a image i can base my sunxi experiments on? like generic arm
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: we have maeotp
<Wizzup>
as sicelo said
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<kiva>
saeed: Can you dev little or more?
<saeed>
kiva: i can. :-)
<saeed>
Wizzup: is there something stopping building sunxi images?
<saeed>
(or an generic armv7)
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<kiva>
saeed: I think making new sunxi images need somebody (You?) to test and dev. A23 is something between N900 and Pinephone, so it might not need much work.
<saeed>
kiva: i already have it booting and using it few months before :-)
<saeed>
stuff are documented in wiki
<saeed>
with help of fmg
<saeed>
however there are no images yet
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<kiva>
Wizzup: Have you little time for help developer saeed to help continue support that device (and maybe another Allwinner A23 devices), look above.
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<freemangordon>
sicelo: and how am I supposed to use maeotp for fb? I see version 0.2 here.
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<sicelo>
you want some integration with the plugin? maeotp is a standalone application, for HOTP/TOTP 2FA
<sicelo>
or you're asking how to setup 2FA on Facebook? (I doubt this is what you're asking though)
<GaryM_>
yippie! open media player works on daedalus for the PP
<GaryM_>
for chimaera, it never seemed to worked.
<GaryM_>
s/worked/work
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<freemangordon>
sicelo: no, how to 'use' maeotp. Obviously I am missing something, but all I see is "create new token" in the menu.
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<freemangordon>
ah, fb will provide the key, I see
<sicelo>
:-)
<freemangordon>
I guess it is hotp
<sicelo>
TOTP
<sicelo>
ah, yes, in MaeOTP speak, yes. Time based HOTP
<freemangordon>
well, maeotp offers HOTP and MOTP :)
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: in any case, I don't think tp cm would render any windows, right?
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: there are TP calls to get some kind of numbers/2fa/feedback I think, which conversations or something else can then render
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: I am doing it in the right (tm) way:
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<sicelo>
how? i.e. 2FA is not related to API authentication (oauth2)
<freemangordon>
CM implements new channel manager/channel that are used for authentication (channel is called Facebook2faChannel and it implements TP_IFACE_CHANNEL_TYPE_SERVER_AUTHENTICATION along with a custom interface)...
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<sicelo>
i think that's oauth2 stuff, not 2FA in the sense of TOTP
<freemangordon>
no, it is not, it is 2fa
<sicelo>
may you share link or something ... shouldn't be TOTP
<freemangordon>
When 2fa is required, that channel type is requested. there is an observer that waits for it, that creates a browser window
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<sicelo>
right, yes, that's not TOTP. it's oauth2, something different
<freemangordon>
sicelo: this is different , there are occasions when FB messenger requires authentication with FB site
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: ok, so where do you need webkit for this when the cm just requests this
<freemangordon>
but again OPT is provided, via email, for example
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: "...that creates a browser window..."
<freemangordon>
in the observer
<Wizzup>
why isn't conversations the observer?
<freemangordon>
because this is FB specific interface
<Wizzup>
I think conversations would want to implement TP_IFACE_CHANNEL_TYPE_SERVER_AUTHENTICATION
<freemangordon>
sec
<sicelo>
Wizzup: oauth2 requires a browser
<freemangordon>
no, wait, wait
<freemangordon>
sec
<Wizzup>
sicelo: I am not saying we don't need a browser, I'm saying that additional observers for protocol specific things imo aren't graet
<Wizzup>
It'd be better to do this on conversations imo
<freemangordon>
I set that to p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } "org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Channel.Interface.Facebook2FA"
<sicelo>
freemangordon: but forget about TOTP/maeotp for this ... you're just hitting it because it's involved in the 'user auth' ... otherwise the application does not need to implement that. just limit to the oauth2 stuff, per the fdo/smcv page
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<freemangordon>
sicelo: there are 2 scenarios, one of the is real otp
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: ok, so why can't conversations handle the org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Channel.Interface.Facebook2FA method
<sicelo>
i know :-)
<freemangordon>
I am discussing the other one (http error 405)
<sicelo>
maybe i'm not explaining this clearly enough
<freemangordon>
"User must verify their account on www.facebook.com (405)"
<freemangordon>
this is not oauth
<freemangordon>
at least I don;t see any re-direct
<freemangordon>
when you hit 405 you are given an url you have to enter a code in(or authenticate via another device, does not matter)
<freemangordon>
once you enter the code you are redirected to m.facebook.com
<freemangordon>
not to oauth address
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: because it is telepahty-facebook specific interface, I don't see why conversations should care about it
<Wizzup>
I think most of these auth interfaces will be protocol specific
<freemangordon>
I mean - it is really a simple dbus-activated application
<freemangordon>
well, we have password and SASL taht are standard and must be supported by conversations
<Wizzup>
plus, the qt application will already have easy access to webkit, whereas gtk2 webkit is not well supported at all
<Wizzup>
(might even be dropped in trixie/excalibur)
<freemangordon>
by fb themselves, but that's irrelevant
<Wizzup>
it looks to me like libwebkit2gtk in trixie needs libgtk-3 btw
<freemangordon>
we cannot expect conversations to support every ono-standard authentication interface
<Wizzup>
so I don't think there is a gtk2 webkit lib there
<freemangordon>
yes, it is gtk 3
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: actually it kind of seems like a better place to solve it than other apps imo, but ok :)
<freemangordon>
another reason to use qt :)
<Wizzup>
yes
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: why is that? this is specific to facebook, conversations should know nothing about it. neitehr it should care
<freemangordon>
as I said: it is dbus-activated TP observer that gets activated only if FB account gets "User must verify their account on www.facebook.com (405)" of 2fa authentication is required
<Wizzup>
ok
<Wizzup>
I guess we'll see if we want to revisit this in the future when we support other 2fa's for other protocols
<Wizzup>
currently we support none
<freemangordon>
SASL has OTP method
<sicelo>
where's telepathy-facebook? or the facebook API it's based on?
<Wizzup>
yes, but conversations does not support it
<freemangordon>
sicelo: on my PC only, yet. it uses bitlbee-facebook with some fixes on top
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: and *that* is something that must be supported
<freemangordon>
sicelo: well, parts of bitlbee-facebook (fb api)
<dsc_>
did someone say conversations
<freemangordon>
mhm
<saeed>
conversations
<freemangordon>
someone shall implement support for X-TELEPATHY-PASSWORD at least
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<arno11>
dsc_: freemangordon: btw, talking @bitlbee fb, it is able to show audio and video links and it works fine with mplayer/audacious and others. could be interesting and useful to show fb media links in conversations
<dsc_>
ok I looked at the Telepathy SASL stuff
<dsc_>
CM opens a new channel (TP_QT_IFACE_CHANNEL_INTERFACE_SASL_AUTHENTICATION) and then conversations needs to prompt for auth
<dsc_>
CM determines mechanism (e.g X-TELEPATHY-PASSWORD)
<dsc_>
so yeah
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<dsc_>
arno11: links?
<dsc_>
you can already follow them (but probably not in the -slim version)
<dsc_>
freemangordon: have you used conversations recently
<dsc_>
I take it 'yes' because you are working on fb CM
<dsc_>
just fyi its quite stable atm
<arno11>
dsc_: i mean, when someone send you audio/video, bitlbee fb shows the corresponding https links to play them
<dsc_>
arno11: I think first I shall look at XMPP media things
<sicelo>
arno11: so bitlbee is still usable with facebook, since their new forced-e2e thing?
<arno11>
sicelo: no idea, my -fake- account has been banned :P
<sicelo>
lol, how do you know it works with audio/video links then?
<arno11>
because i used it on my n900, and was able to play wife's video and audio on my n900
<arno11>
*bitlbee facebook
<arno11>
but iirc fb doesn't send http links for image
<arno11>
just for audio and video
<arno11>
oh, i just remember now it is (was) even possible to already show http media links in conversations (making a bridge between bitlbee and irc in conversations)
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<freemangordon>
dsc_: CM if far from usable
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<GaryM_>
from the latest PP image 20250803-daedalus/, screen rotation now works and the weather app now installs