<ToyKeeper>
Reading scrollback, I hope in the future Wayback will be able to map Wayland windows to allow the X11 window manager to manage them.
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<ToyKeeper>
... and by "future" I mean maybe within a few years. I'm not in a hurry. There are no Wayland-specific apps I need to run and I don't expect to stop using native X11 until I no longer have a choice.
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<ToyKeeper>
I should probably catch up on technical debt for my chat infrastructure first... like I've been meaning to set up a private Matrix just to puppet to other networks and merge everything into one place. Have just been dragging my feet because Matrix administration is kind of a pain, and I haven't finished my logging client yet.
<whitequark[cis]1>
i'm excited about wayback because i have my i3 setup and i like it
<whitequark[cis]1>
and i basically don't care about wayland until wine has excellent wayland support
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<ToyKeeper>
I used i3 for a while, and enjoyed it. Pretty decent window manager. But the one I ended up sticking with is Sawfish, basically the Emacs of window managers. Been using it for literally decades now, and it's intensely customized. Nothing else like it really exists.
<ToyKeeper>
In particular, it has been really handy being able to rewrite its code on the fly while it's running, without having to log out. I only log out like... once every year or two, when it's time to upgrade the entire OS.
<britney>
Emacs, nice
<britney>
I'm writing an emacs operating system
<britney>
it'll just be the linux kernel + emacs
<britney>
Emacs/Linux
<britney>
thats all you need
<britney>
when you boot up, it doesnt have the bloat of nonsense like init
<britney>
it just boots directly into emacs
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<ToyKeeper>
I enjoyed my time with Emacs for several years, but I had to write and maintain a lot of custom code to make it do what I wanted, and it still was only okay-ish for me. So I tried a bunch of others, and when I got to Vim, it only took a few hours for me to know I had found my new home. But YMMV.
<ToyKeeper>
For a window manager though... Lisp has been great. It's not my favorite language, but I love how it lets me completely change the code while it's running. Very useful for a process which is expected to run for like a year at a time.
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<f_>
Heh
<f_>
Re <Ariadne> i just cancelled my irccloud subscription :p
<f_>
whitequark[cis]1 Heard of sway?
f_[m]`[m] is now known as f_|cis
<f_|cis>
<whitequark[cis]1> "on the irc side your nick..." <- nick fixed